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    lol

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    FD, please refrain from butchering our language.

    To answer the poor guy's question, I would say BJJ would compliment wrestling very well.

    Learning to control, and finish someone more effectively on the ground can only be a good thing.

    On the other side of the coin wrestling would compliment BJJ very well, the takedowns are fantastic, and usually leave you in a very strong posistion when you get to the ground.

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  3. #73

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    agreed.
    "Training = pain." - I said that.

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    Hmm, I've have to say that wrestling would help your BJJ but not necessarily the other way around. If you've been a wrestler and suddenly start training BJJ and then go back to wrestling, it will take you some time to get back into that frame of mind (couple of days, maybe?) Since wrestling is all about shoulders to the mat and BJJ could care less about that kind of positioning, there can be some negative habit transfer. Plus, there are a lot of fouls in wrestling (hands locked on the ground, etc. . .) that might catch a BJJ-trained guy.

    I know I will take some flak for this next point, but oh well. BJJ guys don't have the intensity and drive of wrestlers. I'm not saying they are in worse conditioning or anything. They just try to flow more and conserve juice, while wrestlers start the match at 100% and just rev it up from there. So BJJ training might not keep you in the high RPM mind-set you need for wrestling. Just a thought.

    I whole-heartedly agree with the idea that BJJ and wrestling compliment each other. A trained fighter with a wrestling/BJJ background is poison on the ground and should be kept on their feet at all costs (and that will be easier said than done).

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    >If you've been a wrestler and suddenly start training BJJ and then go back to wrestling, it will take you some time to get back into that frame of mine (couple of days, maybe?) Since wrestling is all about shoulders to the mat and BJJ could care less about that kind of positioning, there can be some negative habit transfer.

    Vargas is absolutely right about this. Going from sub grappling to wrestling you have to break alot of habits. I went back to wrestling and in the first practice I guilotines a guy who shot in on me.

    Also FD was right about one thing. Wrestlers have been and still are one of the top conditioned atheletes. If you been around wrestlers you've probably heard the phrase, 'No one trains harder than a wrestler.' they are almost right swimming is more physically demanding though. Submission grappling does not require the conditioning you need for wrestling because you can win alot easier in sub grabbling than in wrestling. So if you come across a sub grappler with a wrestlign background (like me for instance) expect a fight.(and if you are fighting me expect to get you ass kicked!)

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    Sorry, I think I misunderstood the question. I was talking from a fighting (no rules to break) POV, I understand what you're saying though.

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    YOU HAVE BETRAYED ME, IN THE WORST POSSIBLE MANNER!!" - KiWarrior

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    I think your only as good as how hard you push yourself.

    I've seen some fatass wrestlers before, no he wasn't very good because he never went to practice and never did anything.

    I am saying that yes wrestlers do workout hard but so do alot of other people.
    I'll make one when I can find one I like.

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    In your case Asia, I know for sure I would get my ass whoop by someone with your background.

    Carbon, for your info, there are fatass in all sports (especially Sumo wrestling).

    Just throw rock at it and it will go away.

    "I would rather admit I am a lousy student than say I am the best, because once you think you are the best, there is no reason to continue learning."
    I would pick bag work over masturbating, fighting over sex, and KOing someone over having a orgasm!

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    Even though a sumo would whoop your ass.
    I'll make one when I can find one I like.

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    UFC1?

    once he mounts you......it's over lol

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