Settle something for me and a Friend

**eyebeams** · Posted On: 4/25/2005 3:52am

USSD is an offshoot of Villari Shaolin Kenpo, which is in itself an offshoot of Kajukenbo. School quality is, according to what I've read, pretty scattershot, with some franchises started by folks with no experience in the art and some that are fairly solid.

**shakedude** · Posted On: 12/27/2006 12:09am

Wheres the shaolin in ussd's and villaris shaolin kempo?

**Marrt** · Posted On: 12/27/2006 12:28am

Probably the same grave you resurrected this thread from.

**impetigo** · Posted On: 12/27/2006 12:30am

your both dumbasses.

**Das Moose** · Posted On: 12/27/2006 9:06am

Whats with all the people on the site recently who have never actually trained martial arts yet are a) posting on here and b) talking to other people as if they have some kind of knowledge even though they don't train?

**GIJoe6186** · Posted On: 12/27/2006 9:15am

Umm, there was no Shaolin in Kempo. I studied USSD up to 3rd brown and was a paid assistant there. I dont recall there being any Shaolin in the system except for some deep stance training and seperate forms we learned that were from Shaolin Kung Fu. Very few people got to learn these forms though.

USSD is a McDojo no doubt about that. I think they have success with it too so good for them. Only problem is that they teach pure Bullshido.

Steve Demasco has an honorary title from the Shaolin Monks.

**GIJoe6186** · Posted On: 12/27/2006 9:21am

Also on that website about full squating, notice it says knee and low back problems maybe aggravated by this. Which is why Im going to keep on usung the bench as a point of reference. I just started squating again after having some back problems. Ive been deadlifting for awhile now and my back is very strong so I dont wanna hurt it again. My style of squating doesnt aggravate my back and its better then no squatting or leg press.

**bigkiai** · Posted On: 1/03/2007 6:06pm

Originally Posted by Namrepus221

ok my friend claims to study Martial arts and well frankly I think he's at a McDojo. But he's not really willing to admit it and that he is not and he is learning from legit instructors, blah blah blah

Basically the only information he will give me is it's a school run by the USSD somewhere near Thousand Oaks Ca.

http://www.ussd.com/

Also he says he's tried to find any and all flaws in the art/teaching of his school and can't find them. Well frankly I don't mean to rain on his parade but I trust you guys more than I trust myself in researching details about this stuff.

I really don't want to hurt the kid either (He's about 4 years younger than I am) should his stuff be found to be nothing but a glorfied Shaolin-do school.

I'm not trying to hurt him or anything. I'm just really weary about these types of martial arts schools and people I consider my friends.

(And yes I have searched the message boards for these but there were so many pages that didnt' have the information I was looking for directly. Mainly the History of the Shaolin-do thing that is over 10 pages of information and I don't know which page to look on.)

Thank you in advance for your help

Namrepus221,

Hi there, I know this was posted a long time ago. Does your friend still go to that dojo? I am very familiar with it. It is a very good USSD. The chief instructors know their stuff, and have close to (if not more than) 30 years of combined experience. I know there is a lot of USSD bashing on the boards. But this school is run well. The instructors are both great martial artists and instructors - those are two things that don't always come hand in hand.

Regards,

Big Kiai

**Axelton** · Posted On: 1/03/2007 6:19pm

Originally Posted by eyebeams

USSD is an offshoot of Villari Shaolin Kenpo, which is in itself an offshoot of Kajukenbo. School quality is, according to what I've read, pretty scattershot, with some franchises started by folks with no experience in the art and some that are fairly solid.

WOAH there turbo! Where did you hear that Villari's kenpo is an offshoot of kajukenbo? Check your sources because i find that HIGHLY suspect.

**Axelton** · Posted On: 1/03/2007 6:20pm

Originally Posted by Das Moose

Whats with all the people on the site recently who have never actually trained martial arts yet are a) posting on here and b) talking to other people as if they have some kind of knowledge even though they don't train?

they took lessons from Angry Spastic.