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  1. SARS_Attacks is offline

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    Posted On:
    4/12/2005 12:01am


     Style: MACP Level 1 +1 Mana

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    Shonin Kwon Do....wtf?

    www.snkd.com

    Has anyone ever heard of Shonin Kwon Do. It says its a blend of ninpo, tkd, and a butt load of other ****.

    Oh and one of the students was boasting about the master's ability to beat Royce Gracie on another forum.

    Bullshit or no?
  2. Kinzei is offline

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    4/12/2005 1:25am


     Style: Daito Ryu, BJJ noob

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    Below is an outline of the lineage that Shoninkwondo is derived
    1. Kusumoki-Kyoshi
    1490-1572
    Kusumoki-Ryu
    Tai-jutsu
    2. Miyamoto Kyoshi
    1573-1623
    jitte-jutsu
    3. Fuma no Kazame
    1590-1762
    Fuma Ryu
    Tai-jutsu
    4. Koruchi Kazame
    1750-1820
    Ninpo-Ryu

    5. Yasutsue Azato
    1820-1906
    Shuri-Te
    Okinawa
    6. Yasutsumue Atako
    1831-1916
    Shuri-Te Tomari-Te
    Okinawa
    7. Kanyo Higashanme
    1853-1916
    Founder of Shorei Ryu
    Okinawa
    8. Gichin Funakoshi
    1868-1957
    Founder of Shotokan
    9. Suk-Sung-San
    1890-1978
    Taekwondo
    10. Ameshida Kazazame
    1948-
    Samuria Ryu
    11. Suik Hong Kazazame
    1956-
    Taekwondo
    12. Kin Quan Kazazame
    1972-
    Founder of
    Shoninkwondo



    I'd say complete bullshit just based on his clamed lineage. Also, this guy is only 32-33 years old. Kind of young to be head of a system, even if it is your own.
  3. Gringo Grande is offline
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    Posted On:
    4/12/2005 1:45am

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    Well...they do have pictures in their gallery with guys wearing MMA gloves...but they also have a freaking romoshopped pic or two.

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  4. Gezere is offline
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    Posted On:
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    FUMA RYU!!!!!!!

    *whistle* *toss fla* BS on the play 15 yard penalty!!!

    Kiddies Fuma Ryu is one of those red flag arts. Its dead. There is no continous lineage. ANYONE claims such lineage is full of it.

    Now the name of the art. SHONIN KWON DO according to the kanji used mess WITNESS FIST WAY. But what I don't think he realizes is the witness in this case is meant for someone taking the stand in a court of law. Pluse mixing languages in a name!!!! :eusa_naug

    Speaking of names lets look at some:

    Kin Quan Kazazama
    Ameshida Kehong Kazazama
    Suik Hung Kazazama.

    :eusa_thin :eusa_thin :eusa_thin
    I'm speechless.

    This is just ripping on the cosmetic level of the art. I'll have to watch the vids to ge t to the actual meat but its not looking good.

    I really don't have a problem with pple founding their own arts. All systems were founded by someone but those pple at least had an clue. :5paperbag
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  5. The Kai is offline

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    Posted On:
    4/12/2005 9:12am


     Style: Kenpo

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    Actually I think he is holding the sword incorrectly
    I really liked the "staring off at the distant misty mounyains", maybe when the buzz wears off he realize that he's been waiting for the sunset ON a POSTER!!
  6. Gezere is offline
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    Posted On:
    4/12/2005 9:26am

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kai
    Actually I think he is holding the sword incorrectly
    He is.
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    RIP SOLDIER

    Didn't anyone ever tell him a fat man could never be a ninja
    -Gene, GODHAND

    You can't practice Judo just to win a Judo Match! You practice so that no matter what happens, you can win using Judo!
    The key to fighting two men at once is to be much tougher than both of them.
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    4/12/2005 12:50pm


     Style: MACP Level 1 +1 Mana

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    Yeah, I definately thought this "style" was fishy. One of the students was all bragging about its d34dlin3ss and that they can take on anyone.
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    10/20/2005 11:37pm


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    First question. How do you hold a sword wrong when it's resting on your shoulder? i mean, and i could be completely wrong on this, but is there some sort of all powerful technique for holding your sword on your shoulder? if so please let me know.

    Second question. How come everyone is constantly saying that the Fuma Ryu is dead? even in my Japanese history books it states that Fuma Ryu disappeared; never that it died. Now i do understand that when coming to most arts that are very disputable as such there are more pre-cautions to take but that does not mean an art is dead. Sho Kosugi is known for being in and studying Tanaka Ryu which is a sect of Fuma Ryu. Now if it is true that Fuma Ryu is completely dead wouldn't that also mean all of the sects of Fuma Ryu like Tanaka Ryu and others be as equally dead? Then how come they still exist?
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    Posted On:
    10/20/2005 11:44pm

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     Style: MMA, functional JKD

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    THe only cool arts with mixed language names are Bartitsu and Rex Kwon Do.
    "You know what I like about you, William? You like guns AND meditation."
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    Posted On:
    10/20/2005 11:57pm

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluewolf
    First question. How do you hold a sword wrong when it's resting on your shoulder? i mean, and i could be completely wrong on this, but is there some sort of all powerful technique for holding your sword on your shoulder? if so please let me know.

    Second question. How come everyone is constantly saying that the Fuma Ryu is dead? even in my Japanese history books it states that Fuma Ryu disappeared; never that it died. Now i do understand that when coming to most arts that are very disputable as such there are more pre-cautions to take but that does not mean an art is dead. Sho Kosugi is known for being in and studying Tanaka Ryu which is a sect of Fuma Ryu. Now if it is true that Fuma Ryu is completely dead wouldn't that also mean all of the sects of Fuma Ryu like Tanaka Ryu and others be as equally dead? Then how come they still exist?
    Sho Kosugi is a fake and you are exceptionally stupid for basing an argument on that load of ****. There is a lot of things wrong with the way he handled the sword because if he claims to teach a Japanese style of kenjutsu and he can't handle the blade right, it is a dead on spot, to him being full of ****. Including the Fuma ryu/Tanaka ryu and Aikijujutsu bullshit, every picture and word on that sight is a lie.
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