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    www.MMA.tv:

    "For over 75 years unrestrained contests were held in Brazil pitting Jiu-Jitsu fighters against all comers. For decade after decade, moves that failed were discarded, and moves that worked were refined.

    Over 10 years ago this exploded in America with the first Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC). Then it spread across the world, drawing world-class experts from wrestling, karate, Muay Thai, Military Hand to Hand, boxing, kickboxing, Jiu-Jitsu, Sambo, judo, submission fighting, and even street fighting. Each contributed what worked; the result is Mixed Martial Arts also called No Holds Barred (NHB).

    Finally there was a complete body of techniques tested. How must the wrestlers takedown be modified against a Thai knee? Is a TaekwonDo kick practical if the other guy can tackle? What punches work when you can be bear hugged?

    These questions have forever been discussed in martial arts schools worldwide, but now they have been answered - 90% of what is practiced is the emperor's new clothes - it doesnít work! The average martial arts program provides exercise benefit, and often remarkable gains in peace of mind. But it doesnít work.

    Donít believe the (often pudgy) self-defense "experts" who claim their pokes, claws and noogies are too deadly for the ring. In an adrenalized state, the human body is incapable of fine motor skills. Hitting something dime-sized like an eyeball with a dime-sized finger tip sounds okay in theory, but is an unrealistic basis for self-defense. Experience shows it is tough enough finding his face with your knee.

    These are not fancy techniques that take years to understand, they are what works! Learn how to properly move, strike, block, throw, choke, and lock someone, both standing and on the ground, from the top and the bottom. "


    Links to some clips of basic moves

    From http://www.MMA.tv

    http://www.mma.tv/images/Z2D/intro_low.avi
    http://www.mma.tv/images/Z2D/intro_high.avi
    http://www.mma.tv/images/Z2D/Instruction_low.avi
    http://www.mma.tv/images/Z2D/Instruction_High.avi
    http://www.mma.tv/images/Z2D/FreeStyle_low.avi
    http://www.mma.tv/images/Z2D/FreeStyle_high.avi
    http://www.mma.tv/images/Z2D/FreeStyle_low.avi
    http://www.mma.tv/images/Z2D/FreeStyle_low2.avi

    Fighters using them:
    From http://www.sherdog.com/videos.htm

    Street fights:
    http://www.warriorcentral.com/violentclips.html

    How to do some of the moves:
    From http://www.fighttraining.com/

    Comments?




    Edited by - Blade Windu on March 04 2003 18:24:41
    "Training = pain." - I said that.

    PizDoff when drunk: "I'm actually MOST pissed that my target for the evening got drink...then I gave her my Bullshido Canada hoodie like a gentleman because she was outside with not much on...did I mention she barfed twice when I got our jackets...steaming barf is kinda fascinating..." - PizDoff.

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    Looks good but still a lot BS outhere.

    The only problem is this people most understand they will never defeat a Knife or a gun in a real fight, self defense is a real busines is not just for fun you most know what you are doing or you will get kill for sure.

    people talk about o much what to do,ho to do all this crap, but trust my words when some of this people step face to face with a mob 99.9% will cry like a baby ask for mommy and please dont hurt me.

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    hey maguill!

    Yes, most of it is BS. :|

    "The only problem is this people most understand they will never defeat a Knife or a gun in a real fight" - Exactly, I agree 100%.

    True about being faced with a gang...




    Edited by - Blade Windu on March 04 2003 23:17:46
    "Training = pain." - I said that.

    PizDoff when drunk: "I'm actually MOST pissed that my target for the evening got drink...then I gave her my Bullshido Canada hoodie like a gentleman because she was outside with not much on...did I mention she barfed twice when I got our jackets...steaming barf is kinda fascinating..." - PizDoff.

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    MaguillaBJJ: I have to disagree with you on this one, as someone who has "defeated" a knife in a real fight.

    Proper technique is simply not enough in a real fight. I think what you are hinting at in your final statement is that you need to have the proper MINDSET to deal with the stresses of actual combat as well as proper and applicable techniques. Without the proper mindset, you're toast in a high stress situation.

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    mind and technique work together, having poor techniques and strenghth(conditioning) but a good mindset gives you a fals sense of secruity.

    You got lucky sanny <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
    "Training = pain." - I said that.

    PizDoff when drunk: "I'm actually MOST pissed that my target for the evening got drink...then I gave her my Bullshido Canada hoodie like a gentleman because she was outside with not much on...did I mention she barfed twice when I got our jackets...steaming barf is kinda fascinating..." - PizDoff.

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    If someone means business with a knife you've not really got any chance at all.

    Agree with original post.

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    we have a bunch of corrections officers at our school. if someone wants to shank you, 99% of the time you're getting shanked.

    it happens all the time.

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    I never said good technique wasn't necessary. Which one do you think is more important Windu?

    By the way, I was attacked with a knife more than once, and it wasn't luck. It was probably unskillfullness on the part of the attacker, they just got outclassed.

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    If all you have is conditioning and technique, you won't be able to fight to your potential in a real situation because you'll freeze up and get scared.

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    I think that's a very bad attitude to have.

    If someone that looks like they know what they're doing, you just resign youself to getting sliced to bits? Hell no. At least take him down(by take down I mean hurt/maim/kill) with you.

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