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  1. dramaboy is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by grond
    On that subject though :new_spira , I don't know if we appropriated the hook from boxing since yip man's time or not. From my point of view it's certainly possible, but I don't know that much about wing chun history.
    See? Problem solved. I don't think even WCL will have anything against what you just said.

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    another 7+ pages of crap about wing chun.
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    Jesus Ive explained all this **** before and no one listens. WCL had a bad school. There is a hook. I still fucking jab in WC, is there one in WC? Not in a fucking form, just because it isnt in a form doesnt mean it isnt there. You use your entire body to punch, footwork, hips, shoulders. Ive explained this before, wtf? People just dont listen when I reply?

    WCL you should stop speaking on WC as a whole and speak of it as "your school", instead. Blanket statements suck.

    If you arent happy with the training at the school, I would say leave. If you dont train your WC a lot it wont be any use to you. It is harder than learning Muay Thai/boxing, but I still like it and think it pays off in the end.

    I like kickboxing, I like muay thai, I like BJJ and I like my WC, I dont see one as better than the other, they are all different ways to do the same thing, sure some longer than others. But if one sucks it is not the sum of the whole.

    As you learn more WC you can see how things work more, if you dont want to stick around for it, then its best to get out now and learn something you will be comfortable with learning and be able to rely on.

    In the end, go with what you are comforatble with, you dont want to be stuck in something you dont like, and doesnt work and is just taking your money. If bullshido helps you wake up to the school being bullshido...then well **** that's what the site is here for. :fish:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Miyagi
    WCL you should stop speaking on WC as a whole and speak of it as "your school", instead. Blanket statements suck.
    You are in the correct.

    Now stop making blanket statements about wing chun, as they suck, and speak of "your school" isntead.
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    4/18/2005 6:38pm


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    I've had it described as "wing chun is a set of concepts, and it doesn't restrict hooking attacks."

    Of course, we never learned how to throw one. Hmm...similar situation to when I asked about using the legs, hips, and shoulder to throw a more powerful punch...
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Miyagi
    1) Jesus Ive explained all this **** before and no one listens. WCL had a bad school. There is a hook. I still fucking jab in WC, is there one in WC? Not in a fucking form, just because it isnt in a form doesnt mean it isnt there. You use your entire body to punch, footwork, hips, shoulders. Ive explained this before, wtf? People just dont listen when I reply?

    2) WCL you should stop speaking on WC as a whole and speak of it as "your school", instead. Blanket statements suck.
    I spoke from my experience and from what I saw on the internet. And what you do in YOUR school is not a rule for WC, listen to your own advice. If you want me to say it, I will: WC MOSTLY does not include a hook, and it MOSTLY does not include a jab.

    It also MOSTLY consists of over rationalization and strange and counterproductive training methods.

    So Wing Chun MOSTLY sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronin69
    All ?ing ?un should be supplemented with large doses of fiber.
    Best post on the thread.
    That civilisation may not sink,
    Its great battle lost,
    Quiet the dog, tether the pony
    To a distant post;
    Our master Caesar is in the tent
    Where the maps are spread,
    His eyes fixed upon nothing,
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     Style: BJJ/Zumba

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    Quote Originally Posted by WingChun Lawyer
    I spoke from my experience and from what I saw on the internet. And what you do in YOUR school is not a rule for WC, listen to your own advice. If you want me to say it, I will: WC MOSTLY does not include a hook, and it MOSTLY does not include a jab.

    It also MOSTLY consists of over rationalization and strange and counterproductive training methods.

    So Wing Chun MOSTLY sucks.

    Happy now?
    Thank you. Yes. :love10:
    Daniel: I don't know if I know enough karate.

    Miyagi: Feeling correct.

    Daniel: You sure know how to make a guy feel confident.

    Miyagi: You trust the quality of what you know, not quantity.
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