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  1. wakinonioi is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yrkoon9
    For safety sake a lot of people start on their knees, especially beginners. The reason? BECAUSE OF THE LIKELYHOOD OF INJURIES.

    Guys falling on other guys, especially another pair of guys who are just innocent bystandards already on the ground has produced a lot of injuries. I see it in BJJ, I saw it in Judo. People's hands get stepped on, faces, etc. What you DON'T want to happen is someone get thrown full force on top of some other group. And if your mat is full, you ...

    PUT SAFETY FIRST. ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT YOU THINK IS PRACTICAL.

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    Lemme tell you what's weak. Your rebuttal.
  3. Gumby is offline

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     Style: Brazilian Jiu Jitsu

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    Quote Originally Posted by drummerboy
    If you are constantly able to stand up and back away from somebody's guard, that person should complain about his own guard.

    OT: I don't see a lot of sense in starting from your knees anyway. It's an artificial position that should't be spent too much time on. I think people should be starting either standing, or from guard/pin.

    Tomas

    Its very difficult to fight someone who doesnt want to fight (i.e. runs from the fight, doesnt engage, and keeps running from your guard.)

    The idea of starting on your knees is so you can go right into the groundwork. If you get two people who are really good (or really bad) at takedowns, you could have entire matches that are fought on the feet. If you want to do that, do Judo- BJJ is there to teach you groundwork.

    As far as the whole standing issue is concerned....

    If you dont pull guard immediately you're a bitch :new_Llol:
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    Posted On:
    4/07/2005 11:21pm

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     Style: Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu

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    Yrkoon9,
    Just ignore wakinonioi, he's a troll who doesn't contribute anything to the board.
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    Brock Sampson

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    My bad.
  6. wakinonioi is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yrkoon9
    Lemme tell you what's weak. Your rebuttal.

    I hope you made sure there was enough room between you and the computer when you typed that. Wouldn't want precious to get hurt.


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  7. Dochter is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by wakinonioi
    I hope you made sure there was enough room between you and the computer when you typed that. Wouldn't want precious to get hurt.
    That's funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dochter
    That's funny.
    What the hell? I don't get it.
  9. pauli is offline

    i keep tryin to spar, but nothin happens!

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    maybe it's absurdist humor. it sure as **** doesn't make sense, so...
  10. leavittk is offline

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    4/08/2005 12:38pm


     Style: Aikido/MACP/BJJ

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    It has taken me a little while to get used to BJJ because of the close in grappling thing. I like to stand up and keep more distance from my opponent standing just out of range forcing him to extend outward with a kick or punch or grab.

    When I started with BJJ the guys get a little frustrated and we spend time dancing around with me moving around and them not engaging. So, in order to get training out of it I have to let them enter that sphere I normally try and keep them out of until they commit and start from a grab or clinch.

    Starting on knees does take some of that away and allows for that part of the fight to be isolated.

    One of my buds yesterday got hurt. He is a freestyle wrestler and we were going at it good...even started on the ground. I had him in guard, moved to spider guard then flipped him over my head. Never thought about him not being able to correctly breakfall! rolled his ankle because he doesn't know how to breakfall. Guy is great wrestler too!

    Gotta be careful about really understanding the capabilities of your buds. I felt bad since I was the more experienced guy and could have prevented that from happening with a little more awareness.
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