Is rubber guard just a gimmick?

**JohnnyS** · Posted On: 4/13/2005 11:22pm

I don't use it but I've played around with it in the past.

I've got a student using it now and she seems to be doing quite well with it. Once she gets the "meathook" you're in trouble.

We've also got a newly promoted purple belt who terrorizes everyone with the twister and has I think finished all the brown belts at my club with it at one point or another while he was a blue belt.

**brolli** · Posted On: 4/13/2005 11:48pm

It is hard to use, but a good way to break their posture. I think that if you aren't flexible enough, they can technically reach up and give you some pain by grabbing your ankle, but probably not enough to submit you. It also requires a lot of leg squeezing endurance.

**Aesopian** · Posted On: 4/18/2005 10:52am

Originally Posted by Brian McLaughlin

Hey guys I've been playing around with the rubber guard position for the past year. I'm not sure if I do it exactly the way Bravo does but its been working for me and my guys.
Here's a video of my student Brian Kim at the Empire Submission Challenge this past weekend. He locks up the "meat hook" and transitions right into a triangle.

http://www.bjjfighter.com/Video/rubber.wmv

Enjoy

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=252351

**Red Elvis** · Posted On: 4/18/2005 10:12pm

Gimmick or not it works for me.

:XXspam:

**Red Elvis** · Posted On: 4/18/2005 10:16pm

Originally Posted by Aesopian

What was SUPPOSED to happen was the disgruntled judoka coming in spitting and hissing, "It's just a BJJ GIMMICK! A LIE!" Then Ke?po comes in and tells us how upset it makes them that Chuck is buying into the gimmick. Then the catch wrestlers tell us how Eddie Bravo is the King of All Lies, and all guards are naught but the fevered dreams of Brasilia.

Ohhh... My bad.

:zicon_ele <----- Sheeba says it's a gimmick! So, you got one vote!

:5moped: <--------- This random italian moped guy says it's one too. Chow!

**chaosexmachina** · Posted On: 4/19/2005 4:02am

Chuck paints his toenails? It must increase the power of the rubber guard!

**Jenfucius** · Posted On: 4/23/2005 10:40pm

there's a need for rubbers when you get in that position

**Aesopian** · Posted On: 5/31/2005 10:49am

I found one more rubber guard instructional online:

http://www.lockflow.com/article_view.php?id=80

**Gringo Grande** · Posted On: 5/31/2005 11:14am

All I know is Aesopian has the "Hawtness". Ph34r him.

Gringo Grande

**NSLightsOut** · Posted On: 6/06/2005 9:54am

As a tribute to Eddie Bravo's naming practices, I have named my new whacky guard-opening technique for no-gi thus:

The Scorpion Ankle Lock of Minor Discomfort!

I'll get around to releasing photos of this somewhat ill-advised technique requiring weird flexibility when I get some time on my hands.