Tang Soo Do (take 2)

**EternalRage** · Posted On: 3/30/2005 5:48pm

Originally Posted by Zid

I've lurking for a pretty long time and these 2 TSD threads have fueled my need to post.

I've been practicing Tang Soo Do for years already and while I somehow suspected the art had a few hints of bullshido, I decided to not care so much about it since I really like the place. The owner's pretty nice, He gives good intense training(although the asst. instructor is more hardcore almost marines style) and the dojang is well equipped with sandbags,makiwaras and even big boxing ring and it not in closed office but in big ranch(my instructor's a farmer BTW). And the best part is the price: No monthly plans, no specials just $45 for membership and monthly payment of $25.

It does have it's cons though like too much focus on katas and step-by-step techniques, and a lot of littles kids there too even in the adult class.And while we do spar and grapple sometimes most of the sparring is tournament style 'point'
sparring.

But haven't been going lately because of my uni studies and ever since I found this site I'm now considering to switch to another style probably muay thai or bjj but I can't find a nearby school that's within a 30 min. drive.

So my questions are:

1.Is my school a mcdojo?

2.Should I switch schools or should I stay?

3.What new style should I take?(Whether replacement or "extra" style)

BTW, My school is run under the WTSDA (J.C. Shin)

1.) IMO, not mcdojo. $25 bux a month, no contracts, even tho they have a nice open facility... but could be bullshido not really sure

2.) if u cant find anything within a 30 min drive id say just stay there for time being.

3.) depends on what you want to do. if u wanna fight go bjj/MT/otherstuff that you can read about using the search engine.

remember skewl is most important.

**Maestro Nobones** · Posted On: 3/30/2005 11:35pm

I'm lucky. My PTSD school doesn't buy into any of that fake lineage crap, we don't pretend we're an ancient style of traditional korean fighting or anything like that. We totally acknowledge that the karate in our style comes from japan, and really don't care about a grandmaster or organization. Katas are only really concentrated on in the kids class, the emphasis in the adult class is on practical technique first... and the 'progressive' part means that we've incorporated boxing/kickboxing, more kung fu/wing chun, and BJJ, so much so that most of the karate has been pushed out in favor of real world friendly stuff.

**grond** · Posted On: 3/30/2005 11:56pm

Is it your tsd school that also has joint mobility programs going on Maestro?

**Maestro Nobones** · Posted On: 3/31/2005 8:41am

yeah they have a few different classes offered. some if it is because they rent the space from a health club and by offering stuff like that, they get primo mat space for a really good rent...

**Miguksaram** · Posted On: 3/31/2005 9:33am

Please stick to the historical aspect of TSD. If you want to find out if your school is Bullshido, then please start another thread in the General Forum area. Thanks.

**Zid** · Posted On: 3/31/2005 12:35pm

OK, Thanks everyone!

I was a victim of bullshido myself(hey I'm 22! I'm still young but I'm learning) but ever since I found this website, I'm grown more wary about the useless MA practices out there. I've found this website to be pretty useful for me in my quest for bullshido-free training.

As for my school, I'll hang on to it for now till I move out since I made a lot of progress there. I live in Puerto Rico BTW, I get plenty of crappy TKD, Karate and Judo schools with the occasional wushu mcdojos. The closest MMA school teaches BJJ, Muay Thai and Fillipino arts which is cool but it's about an hour or 2 long drive from my town.

Plus I'm poor college boy and with a busy schedule so I can't fancy for much. And while the school has plenty of mcdojo stuff it does occasionally do grappling and hard-sparring and tried to make the most of my training by hitting sandbags and pumping iron(which is all I do now for this semester in my home). I haven't gone there in months but I'll get back there as soon as class is over.

Oh, and I'm sorry for hijacking your thread. I was going to start a new one but I thought since TSD was discussed here I thought, why not? Typical noob behavior, I guess. :5paperbag

You may now continue with your regularly scheduled thread.

**SRK85** · Posted On: 3/31/2005 2:48pm

Well it all depends on if you have fun with what you are doing. Even tho my school says its TSD we also do Muay Thai Kickboxing and other things based on who is instructing the class.

**Kistrael** · Posted On: 3/31/2005 2:52pm

Does anyone actually know the correct lineage of TSD?

Okay, so we have Hwang Kee...

And somewhere down the line, you get JC Shin, and CS Kim pops out of somewhere.

**EternalRage** · Posted On: 3/31/2005 2:59pm

Kang Uk Lee published a book titled "Tang Soo Do" (original huh). But in it he has a Moo Duk Kwan family tree (not too extensive, but it has the big names on there and all the pioneers of TSD) which I thought was pretty good. Other than that I don't know of any other lineage sources save for each organization's book of Dan numbers.