Kenpo in UFC

[yasuri]

OK, I made the mistake of bringing up something from memory that was totally wrong and sidetracking the thread on Ed Parker. Here's the correction.

I had thought Gary Goodrich was an American Kenpo guy making a presence in an early UFC fight. I just got out the UFC Hits 1 to correct things.

Yes, the fight I was thinking of was Gary Goodrich taking out Paul Herrara. But Gary was Kuk Sool Won from Canada. As the wrestler grabbed him, Gary wraps his legs around the guy's one arm, and hooks the other in his arm (the land on the ground looking like a letter 'T' and Gary lands a flurry of elbow strikes with his other arm. Really a memorable event! Time 38:37 on the DVD.

I was confusing that with another memorable UFC. Keith Hackney (who was listed as White Tiger Kenpo Karate) wraps around Jo Son on the ground. He reaches over and sticks his fingers under Jo's jaw bone until he taps. (can they do that stuff in modern UFC?). Time 23:34.

My bad - I had combined the two in my head and thought it was someone doing Parker American Kenpo at UFC. Rather than derail to other thread, I've clarrified it here.

[Aesopian]

Gary's got what's called the crucifix. More on that: http://bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=18401

[tekki420]

We do have chuck lidell ya know... hes kempo : ) , I do believe the kempo he studies though stems from Chokki Motobus teachings, and he is well known for testing his techniques in real fights.

[_Mick_]

crucifix? that's called the screaming jesus at my school... people in tennessee aren't that politically correct.

any ways. does it matter if some fighter used a certin technique, from a certin style? it could really be said that most styles have been used effectively in the ufc at some point (with exception of things like tai chi, yellow bamboo, or capoeira).

[Omega Supreme]

Kempo/Kenpo reps for MMA that I know of;

Zane Fraser
Kieth Hackney
Jason Delucia (although he claims "five animal kung-fu")
Bart Vale
Chuck Lidell

[feedback]

crucifix? that's called the screaming jesus at my school... people in tennessee aren't that politically correct.

any ways. does it matter if some fighter used a certin technique, from a certin style? it could really be said that most styles have been used effectively in the ufc at some point (with exception of things like tai chi, yellow bamboo, or capoeira).

Jean Silva is a cage fighter who successfully uses capoeira.

[gojuJKDdude]

Chuck Liddell may have studied kenpo but do you really think his fighting style is representative of kenpo? I study Go Ju but I cant say I fight like a go ju ist...

[Omega Supreme]

Chuck Liddell may have studied kenpo but do you really think his fighting style is representative of kenpo? I study Go Ju but I cant say I fight like a go ju ist...

Trust me Chuck supports his Kempo. What works in the ring is for the ring. This goes back to the "Why does Kung-fu guys look like Kickboxers when they put boxing gloves on" arguement. You use what works in the realm that it is given. Best example of this is Vitor Belfort and BJJ. More people are afraid of his hands than his BJJ.

[Gringo Grande]

Uh Joe Son didn't tap from some kind of choke or jaw crank...he tapped from Hackney hitting him repeatedly in the nutsack about 3 or 4 times. Groin shots were legal in the early UFC's but you were fined for each shot...hence during that match BJM shouting, "That's $500", etc as Hackney played speedbag with Joe Son's balls.

Gringo Grande

[Knightmare]

I thought Bart Vale was a shootfighter?

He wrote a book on shootfighting which I bought. Great book btw.