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  1. Aesopian is offline

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    Take the time you would normally spend shaving your legs and use it to drill side mount escapes instead. It will be time better spent.
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    Yes.

    People who waste time with these inconsequentials are not focusing their efforts in the right places.

    Sitting around wondering if you should be running 4.5 miles on Thursday or 5.3 miles on Friday is STUPID. You should have run 6 miles on Wed. And if you are wondering whether the hair on your legs is going to make the difference when getting out of leglock? Holy ****... that's a whole new level of anal. How about this, train like a fuckin madman and you won't have to worry about being put in a leglock?

    Edit: anger creates typos. 4 out of 5 dentists agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emevas
    Going to that SoCal pankration thing. It'll be my first tournament. I've heard about shaving legs being some advantage to escaping submissions and such, but is it really a notable advantage. Any bullshido folks do this?
    You're just looking for any kind of excuse, aren't you.

    Emevas: "OK guys, I'll come clean, I just love the way it feels!"
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    at school i grapple in shorts all the time, and i have never noticed any problems with having hair, and i'm a hairy fucker. besides, once you start to sweat, the hair gets coated in it, and it'll be slick anyway.
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    Shave your legs, only if you wear hose.
    "Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." – Voltaire.
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    The friction a material is defined by two constants... the coefficient of static friction, and the coefficient of dynamic or kinetic friction (defined by greek letter miu with subscripts s and k).

    Force of Friction = Frictional coefficient * Normal force

    (note: the normal force is the force of your body “pushing” back perpendicular to your surface)

    The lower the coefficient of static friction, the less force it will take before slippage occurs. The lower the coefficient of dynamic friction the less force it takes to slide.
    The question is... How do you minimize both static and kinetic frictional coefficients?

    So to seek the answer, its time to look for studies that have tested the frictional properties of skin. Keep in mind friction is dependent on both surfaces, these studies aren’t about flesh-on-flesh contact. Most of skin friction related studies have been about hydrodynamics of swimming.

    http://www.cetr.com/skin_testing_body.htm
    This study looks at the effects of hydration and lotions on the kinetic friction of the skin. Interesting things... hydration increased friction by 50 percent. The lotions increased kinetic friction any from 50 to 90 percent.

    http://www2.fhs.usyd.edu.au/ess/omea...mics45(10).pdf
    This study looks at static friction on handgrip railings.
    Soapy hands produced the lowest mean coefficients (0.46+0.04), significantly less then dry (1.72+-0.16, p<50.001) and wet hands (1.42+-0.16, p<50.001)
    http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/dept/coach...t/fiveauth.htm
    There is some evidence that shaving hair off the body and legs can reduce surface drag. The reduced resistance causes a reduction in the energy per stroke when compared to an unshaven condition (Sharp & Costill, 1990)
    looking at that study more...

    http://web.archive.org/web/200201300...ay/shaving.htm
    It is concluded that removing body hair reduces active drag, thereby decreasing the physiological cost of swimming
    So in conclusion: Shaving reduces friction on your skin. But if you’re going to do it, do it right before, because although I have no evidence, I would wager to guess that stubble has more friction than both shaved and normal skin.

    BTW: Aesopian... I totally agree with you that working side mount escapes is far more important. That’s why today Emevas and I shall be hitting the mat to do just that.
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    Holy crap, it doesn't matter.



    If Royler can afford to not do it in ADCC, I think you'll be safe not slicking yourself like a viado.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aesopian
    Holy crap, it doesn't matter.



    If Royler can afford to not do it in ADCC, I think you'll be safe not slicking yourself like a viado.

    Yes, because lord knows I'm Royler Gracie and not some scrub with barely any grappling experience =P

    Hehe, a lot of angry advice. Seems I've hit on a mite sensitive subject. Still, it's all appreciated.
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    You're a scrapper, I like that."-Ronin69
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    Shave your legs 4 days before the tournament and then let it grow back. You can stubble rub your opponent until he submits.
    "Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." – Voltaire.
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    I third the Ken Shamrock in a speedo thing !
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