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  1. Equipoise is offline
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    I'm wondering what motion you're doing that's causing a fatigue in your bicep aside from the recoil and I'm wondering why you won't just read what I typed about a high intensity exercise.
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    Akira, it is the recoil as far as I can tell, I'm trying to bring it back to my face as fast as I can to load up for another one. High intensity exercise like what? There's a Noob tag on this thread for a reason.
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    why would you want to jab 1000 times into the air ? or the bag?
    Why would you want to do that?
    Are you gonna hit someone with a jab 1000 times ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AkiraMusashi
    I'm wondering what motion you're doing that's causing a fatigue in your bicep aside from the recoil and I'm wondering why you won't just read what I typed about a high intensity exercise.

    his bicep is straining because he has to stop his inertia, and then retract the arm in one motion. It's kinda of a whipcrack to the bicep and connective tissue. With a bag or an opponent, something else absorbs the energy before you retract the fist. That's why shadowboxing will wear you out quicker and cause more injuries than a heavy bag. Specifically to the bicep. Shadowboxing is a great way to improve combinations and hand speed, but oo much intensity too early can frag your elbows and biceps.

    Thats why it is better to make your opponent miss. He'll tire faster and be more liely to hurt himself.

    For improving muscular endurance I recommend plyometrics, but there are probably 10000 people here who can anwer that question better than me.
    And lo, Kano looked down upon the field and saw the multitudes. Amongst them were the disciples of Uesheba who were greatly vexed at his sayings. And Kano spake: "Do not be concerned with the mote in thy neighbor's eye, when verily thou hast a massive stick in thine ass".

    --Scrolls of Bujutsu: Chapter 5 vs 10-14.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronin69
    why would you want to jab 1000 times into the air ? or the bag?
    Why would you want to do that?
    Are you gonna hit someone with a jab 1000 times ?
    The theory is if I can throw a 1000 jabs without a tiring out, 80 or a 100 a round will be easy. When I was throwing jabs yesterday I started feeling it around 50, the goal is to start feeling it after more punches.
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    Scrapper, what plyometric exercises would you recommend for biceps.
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    ojgsxr6, your coaches training recommendations make me appreciate my own gym even more.

    Anyways as to my opinion as to how to work your jab, are you planning on competing? If you're going to be fighting 3 minute rounds, I would recommend somehow setting up a timer (make an audio recording thing yourself if you have to and burn it onto cd and use that) and going for that amount of time.
    I would also work more on explosive, fast jabs with good form. If you're just standing in front of the bag going 1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 than that is one of the biggest wastes of time I've ever heard of, move around the bag, practise your footwork and other punches in combination.
    Start off with maybe being more explosive with your punches and I'll try to put some more effort into my next post.
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    Tom, yes I do plan on competing. Now the goal of the drill is not to, work the jab, it's to make it so I can throw jabs with my arms tiring out. When I do bag work I do throw combinations, practice footwork etc. Also this isn't something I do at the gym, it's something I do at home, at the recommendation of a fighter at the gym, so I'm not throwing them at a bag it's at the air.
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    http://www.ringside.com/store/prodin...em=17&mitem=34

    You should try that out and tell me if it's any good. And if it really isn't good (for you) you should send it my way.
    I'm selfless, I know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traditional Tom
    http://www.ringside.com/store/prodin...em=17&mitem=34

    You should try that out and tell me if it's any good. And if it really isn't good (for you) you should send it my way.
    I'm selfless, I know.
    Jeez that's fancy.

    Or, you could buy weighted bag gloves. Those have worked extremely well for me.
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