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  1. Fantasy Warrior is offline
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    ? WC concerntrates on centralline punching (as in the infamous chain punch) -such opportunities rarely present themselves in grappling -instead we see hooking strikes. But I may be proved wrong... nah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronin69
    Actually, the fact they wing chun trains to punch from very short distances and most of their punches are "arm punches", it will acuyally fit well into MMA ( striking from grappling range).
    Meaning, those arm punches will get them arm barred in a heartbeat?
    Or are you serious about the usefulness of WC straight punches?
    That civilisation may not sink,
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    Quiet the dog, tether the pony
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    His eyes fixed upon nothing,
    A hand under his head.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ronin69
    Actually, the fact they wing chun trains to punch from very short distances and most of their punches are "arm punches", it will actually fit well into MMA ( striking from grappling range).
    Actually, WC punches are not 'arm punches', it just looks that way when you're learning the first form in many schools because the first form doesn't train footwork or hip movement, and it's supposed to be done _very_ slowly. Other schools teach punching with the hip alongside the first form.

    WC punching power is generated in a fairly mainstream way, either by driving with the hips, or from the back leg as you step into the opponent as you punch.
    If you're looking for it in the 'classical' curriculum, you'll see it in the second and third forms.

    The main thing I feel WC lacks in punching terms is the hook.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMcFu
    Well, he is supossed to be the leading tough guy in WT. I have myself trained with him a bit and he can kick my ass quite easily (not saying much though).

    Maybe he can get in Pride or UFC on his name alone.

    Maybe a match with a gracie would take place, or how about Nog or Silva?

    I'm curious, tell me about training with him.
    I always thought he was kinda tough (being Turkish and all) and had good potential, but was unfortunately caught up in this bullshit with LT and KK. It is good that he finally recognized it, but it may be too late for him, he's like 40 isn't he?

    Tomas
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    Quote Originally Posted by WingChun Lawyer
    Meaning, those arm punches will get them arm barred in a heartbeat?
    Only if they leave their arm sticking out straight after the hit. They should have learned not to do that in free-moving Chi Sao and sparring.
  6. Ronin is offline

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    You guys are missing my point, the fact the Wing Chun trains to punch from zero distance, gives them a good tool to emply strikes from the grappling range.
    I am not talking about chain punching, but the 3 and 1 inch punches.
    Karate systems and boxing teach to punch with a "long arm" type of motion, whereas systems like WC, teach the "short arm" striking that is more applicable to striking at grappling range.
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    Centerline punching is not limited to the opponents happy trail!
    A centerline punch can be delivered from the side too. Yes the centerline of the front of the body contains alot of vital targets, nose, throat, solar plexus, groin. But, If you side step your opponent his centerline becomes his ribcage, etc.
  8. wingchunnewbie is offline

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     Style: Wing Chun

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    Quote Originally Posted by kickcatcher
    ? WC concerntrates on centralline punching (as in the infamous chain punch) -such opportunities rarely present themselves in grappling -instead we see hooking strikes. But I may be proved wrong... nah.
    The first form only has centreline punches, but WC also makes extensive use of uppercuts and elbows.
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    Mixed reactions, the popularity of MMA has made it increasingly difficult to run a successful commercial TMA operation.
    ~Hopefully his wrestling background bring out a successful team.
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    Hi V1o - see you in about a week at the throwdown. Where have you been?
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