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  1. TRD is offline

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    Posted On:
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    Due to the nature of conflict and arguing on internet forums, it might be a good idea to talk to an attorney before you post sometimes to ensure your posts are legit and legal. There are some excellent prepaid legal plans out there now days that cost as little as $16.00 per month with $10.00 one time enrollment fees. Fees are subject to change of course but it's nice to call an attorney up every day and just grind thru the legalities of your posts to ensure you are not giving anything away to people who would want to take what you say and hurt you with it legally if you know what I mean. Just my two cents and my opinion that for some people these plans may be of assistance.
  2. Blad3 is offline

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    that's probably a good idea tbh, not that I'm going to do it (too young atm..)

    It's happen on this site before though - legal situations etc... :|
    "Training = pain." - I said that.

    PizDoff when drunk: "I'm actually MOST pissed that my target for the evening got drink...then I gave her my Bullshido Canada hoodie like a gentleman because she was outside with not much on...did I mention she barfed twice when I got our jackets...steaming barf is kinda fascinating..." - PizDoff.
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    Posted On:
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    Sue me. I dare you.
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    You can't get in trouble for ANYTHING you say on a forum. (unless you say you wanna kill the president) Now people who own websites can get in trouble for things they say, but posters like us are immune from legal fallout. Jesus christ these legal plans you speak of are just to make money off of suckers. Grow up.
  5. Omega Supreme is offline

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    Posted On:
    2/23/2003 4:27pm

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    Sue me. I dare you.

    Go ahead and say something wrong about the wrong group and watch yourself get taken up on that offer. Some letigious fucking assholes (sp) will do just that. Hopefully congress will never pass laws making it required for people to give up there anonymity on forums such as these.

    Go away I'm talking to myself
  6. TRD is offline

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    Posted On:
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    Fisting Kittens, you are completely wrong. Lots of posters (not site owners) on the internet have gotten in trouble because of what they have said. There is case history after case history to prove it. I would wager there are probably people right now on the more popular martial arts forums that could tell you personal stories of their involvement in such suits.

    Liable, threats, all of this can easily lead to criminal and civil prosecution.

    I believe your last post to be inaccurate, reckless, and ignorant. And many people that have no other recourse to legal help can benefit greatly from these low cost plans. Please educate yourself as to the facts so others won't be led astray by your last post. Thank you.
  7. FingerorMoon? is offline

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    Posted On:
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    Your kidding right ?

    Please provide a case in which someone has been sued for their post on a public forum.

    If this actually was true, it may actually be a good thing. People would have to think before they type.

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  8. Omega Supreme is offline

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    Posted On:
    2/23/2003 5:12pm

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    Case History?
    http://www.legalday.co.uk/current/cyberlibel.htm
    Since you're in Australia.

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  9. TRD is offline

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    Posted On:
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    A simple search of internet defamation libel finds a multitude of examples and websites/pages devoted to this subject. It's important to note that many cases never even make it to court and don't get reported as they are settled out of court for undisclosed sums.

    Here's one of many examples out there gleaned from the web. This was a post from an attorney who also practices TKD: "from what I've read so far it seems the bashing of <plaintiff> has prompted me to stand in for his defense. It seems many of you know something about his family that isn't common knowledge (i.e real name, address, phone numbers, etc). Do you know that this is infringement of privacy and that you stand to be prosecuted. Threatening even via discussion groups is no different than orally defaming a person which can be liable for litigation. Let me give you all some advice.....stop before you do something you may regret. I have prosecuted several internet defamation cases with good success. Think about it before you type it. I'm not here to ruffle any feathers but a few of you asked me to post something before it gets worse. If you have a problem work it out in private but don't resort to posting personal information just because you hate someone. How would you feel if I said Bel is wanted by the Justice Department for displaying child pornograghy? It's not true, but if I didn't say so, it could hurt Bel, who does not deserve it. You get my meaning? Thank you for you time!!"

    and the list just goes on and on and on and on..

    Here's one of many many older websites that has information relating to some aspects of internet libel/defamation. Keep in mind that there have been a lot more cases since 1995 (to the best of my knowledge more internet lawsuits are being filed than ever and the situation is snowballing. An interesting new lawsuit between what a user posted in the feedback section after a sale on ebay recently was filed): http://www.english.upenn.edu/~afilreis/defamation-in-cyberspace.html

    My point is that well some of these probably have some merit, mostly it's just pissed off people trying to hurt each other. The martial arts community has an option to the courtroom over little forum posts that don't end up really costing them. It's just that only the true warriors choose it. Again, just my opinion (ie my two cents). I am not an attorney nor attempting to give legal advice but just discussing the subject.
  10. FingerorMoon? is offline

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    Posted On:
    2/23/2003 6:01pm

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    Thanks for the links guys.

    Omega
    - the Australian vs American company is a little different. This case got a bit of publicity over here. Its an Australian businessman suing a professional publication because the false comments directly influence his business and the person speaking was doing so from a position of perceived authority.

    Still, the others are very interesting.







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