Getting to the bottom of Shaolin-do

**OU812IC!** · Posted On: 2/23/2005 12:04pm

And there is a whole lot of stuff that is not correct on SD websites. Anyone with a school can put up their version of what they want.

**MasterKiller** · Posted On: 2/23/2005 12:09pm

Sifu Hsia Chien-p'ing demonstraTes the kung fu of the fan.
The General Association of Kung Fu of Hong Kong 1978.

From such things confusion arises for the gui low and so darkness embraces the style.

In other news: Why keep going on about liniage when there's so many more entertaining things?

So someother guy made up a form in 1978. Big deal. The point is A) he doesn't claim it's old and B) he didn't pay to have steele erected at Chen village to get recognition for saving the "lost" fan form.

Sin The' and his senior students do everything they can, including fabricating history (Yeah, read his book sometime) to make the guy look more important than he really is, or ever will be.

**Jekyll** · Posted On: 2/23/2005 12:17pm

Originally Posted by MasterKiller

So someother guy made up a form in 1978. Big deal. The point is A) he doesn't claim it's old and B) he didn't pay to have steele erected at Chen village to get recognition for saving the "lost" fan form.

Sin The' and his senior students do everything they can, including fabricating history (Yeah, read his book sometime) to make the guy look more important than he really is, or ever will be.

I just ment it was Chein's Fan Form(rather then the Chen fan form) and I could see how people just ripping stuff of could get confused.

But why are we talking about liniage when there are people out there learning to melt babies?!?!?

**Dr. No** · Posted On: 2/23/2005 12:45pm

Indeed, this probably has been covered before, but what's the deal with all those martial arts with weird hand toughening techniques anyway?
thrusting one's hand into a cup of gravel hardly makes anyone a fighter. I wish i could generate egough chi to melt a baby though.

**Wounded Ronin** · Posted On: 2/23/2005 12:55pm

The best part of all is how thunderingly insignificant it would be even if this guy did discover some old fan form.

"Hey guys! I found this old form showing in an abstract and stylized manner how people might or might not have assaulted each other with a fan a thousand years ago!"

What comes to mind is someone showing up at a stickfighting or saber tournament with an old copy of Tallhoffer hoping to magically defeat everyone else just by virtue of a few outdated woodcuts.

**MasterKiller** · Posted On: 2/23/2005 12:57pm

thrusting one's hand into a cup of gravel hardly makes anyone a fighter.

Uh, so when you hit someone it A) it hurts them more and B) so you don't break your hands when you hit them. It makes the bones more dense.

Kicking a bag makes a Muay Thai's guys legs harder. Punching a bag makes a boxer's hands harder.

200 years ago, they didn't have bags. It's an old traingin method, and it probably crippled more people than it helped, but it works when done properly.

**ChueKai** · Posted On: 2/23/2005 1:14pm

The sand burn story has changed a bit from the first time I heard it. The first teacher of The's was a sand burn master as well as poison palm. He didn't melt the baby in the first rendition of the story, he was practicing his poison palm when the baby started crying....he then picked it up with his hands covered in poison, thus resulting in its death.

All the stories have changed over time it appears. Also, to correct one thing it wasn't called Shaolin-Do in 1983 either...it changed to that somewhere around 1996. Before then it was Sin The's Karate. It even says that on the belt certificate that I saw from 96. Most schools didn't call themselves by that name, most just used the generic Shaolin name. Around 96-97 they changed the name officially to Shaolin-Do.

**TylerDurden** · Posted On: 2/23/2005 1:22pm

Ok, so let me get this straight. Some guy was rubbing poison onto his hands, apparently a rather potent contact poison at that. A poison to which he was apparently immune. And then this lunatic picked up his baby to stop it from crying? Did he also cook dinner for his family without washing up, or did he figure it out once the baby stopped breathing? This story just gets dumber as it goes along. Now please tell me that the poison was created internally because that is the only thing that is missing. You would hope the people with such immense powers would be a trifle less forgetful.

**heng fa** · Posted On: 2/23/2005 1:24pm

I have heard some hilarious stories before but this baby melting is a very very good one.

Good thing Su Kong never possessed that skill.

**TylerDurden** · Posted On: 2/23/2005 1:31pm

"911 what is your emergency?"

"I've just melted my baby! Please... please send someone with a mop bucket!"

Melted baby, the other other milk.

Melted baby, it's what's for dinner.

How can you fit 50 babies into a drum? Have a shaolin do master melt them.

How many melted babies does it take to drown a shaolin do master? Impossible, they can swim ontop using only their pecs.

How do you stop a baby from crying? Melt the fucker.

If a shaolin do master and a melted baby fall off a building at the same time who hits the ground first? Let's try it and find out!

So I'm walking down the street and I slip on this puddle in front of a shaolin do school. I look at my friend and ask, "What the hell was that?" He glances at the school, and then at the puddle and says, "I don't know, twins?"