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  1. TaeBo_Master is offline
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    Posted On:
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    Warming up can technically include anything that raises the body temperature. Increased body temperature does improve the pliability of the tissues within. However, what's called a passive warm-up, where you use an external method to raise the body temp. such as a sauna, is less effective than a physical warm-up for the most part. This is because it increases the body temp. from the outside in, instead of inside out. It also doesn't deal with moving any joints through gradually increasing ranges of motion. Generally speaking, the order of warm-ups, from least effective to most effective is as follows:

    Passive Warm-up ---> General Warm-up (jogging, biking, etc.) ----> Specific Warm-up (targeting exactly the areas to be used).

    But any of these is better than nothing at all.
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    What's your views on Kurz's approach to stretching, TBM? He's the Stretching Scientifically guru, it sounds good to me especially considering my lower-body flexibility needs a lot of work.
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    I believe the warm up should match the main session. if you're going for a run, a light jog should be the warm up. If you're lifting weights, do a couple of warmup sets on each exercise. If you're doing judo, do light newaza randori for a few minutes.
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    A 1/4 mile J O G not run followed by stretching works for me, mentally and physically.
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    I have a stretching related injury and, actually have had it for about a year because i'm too stubborn to go to a doctor for things. I was stretching to achieve the front splits, or just a good range of flexibility in that area. I did this by slowly going to my maximum ROM and trying to pull my legs back in (which didn't happen, its just to engage the muscles, as I learned to do in Pavel's book). After a while, the muscles started to hurt very bad around there so I held off on it for a while. A month or two after, I started it up again and retained my prior level of flexibility. However, before stretching it out, at least once, sometimes twice a day, every day, the area by my (lesser trochanter of femur? by my groin where the femur connects to the pelvis) cracks or pops. Sometimes it hurts, sometimes it almost feels good. Either way, it's not a good thing and i've been off stretching (and working out, pretty much due to illness) for about a month. I was wondering if you could at least tell me what's wrong with me and maybe even tell me how to treat it. As stupid as I am, I never iced it or anything. I'm guessing I just pushed for the splits too fast and payed for it but I don't know why that would necessarily effect my bones.
    Also, my hip flexors pop/have pain once in a while as well, especially after doing the front splits. Sometimes I can prevent this by doing the side splits after but that's another similar problem I have and don't take care of. I'm lucky that I have youth on my side. At least for now.
    So any help is appreciated. Thank you.
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    Could you recommend a good shoulder stretching technique, this is the place I injure most often when training with weapons. I have currently pulled a muscle in my right shoulder and cannot lift my arm above shoulder height. I need to rest it for a while and it drives me nuts when I cannot train.
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    3/27/2006 10:30am

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    Excellent thread!! Thanks for the info TBM.

    Would anyone have a good routine for stretching the hams and calfs...(Sorry don't know the medical terms)
    I have to do a trunk forward flexion test for my Police application. However my 44 years of age my body doesn't want to co-operate... flexibilty is not my forte as I can barely touch my toes from standing right now!!


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    Posted On:
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    well, here's what I do:

    I bend as low as I can go, then close my eyes, and take several deep breaths, letting my arms and shoulders dangle as dead weight, and when I open them, I'm closer then when I started. As fruity as it sounds, you might consider yoga or pilates if your flexibility seems eroded...
    There's no choice but to confront you, to engage you, to erase you. I've gone to great lengths to expand my threshold of pain. I will use my mistakes against you. There's no other choice.
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    Posted On:
    3/27/2006 1:48pm

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyCache
    well, here's what I do:

    I bend as low as I can go, then close my eyes, and take several deep breaths, letting my arms and shoulders dangle as dead weight, and when I open them, I'm closer then when I started. As fruity as it sounds, you might consider yoga or pilates if your flexibility seems eroded...
    JohnnyCache: Yeah thats basically how I was able to touch my toes at all. However I seem to get stuck when doing that in the seated position that the flexion test calls for. My flexibility was more like non-existant than eroded after 15 years of computer IT work, but it is gradually getting better.
    I was actually looking into the pilates thing as there is a class offered nearby, not sure that the wife would go for me in a class of young, in great shape women tho, can't hurt to try I guess.... :icon_mrgr
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    Posted On:
    5/03/2006 3:29pm


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    I'm insanely flexible without trying, I can do full splits with ease, a full back bend, a neck bridge with my nose touching the mat and I can even hold a full lotus position for as long as I want. However I have yet to see the advantage of this flexibility in my sparring/grappling. Do you have any tips on how I can use my abnormal levels of flexibility to my advantage?
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