Posted On:2/24/2003 7:00pm
Style: Submission Wrestling.
The one i have experience in is the WJJF in Lisburn, Northern Ireland... complete and utter bollucks.
Kirves, it sounds liek you;re just taking a MMA which is more JKD like than submission fighting like: But if it covers all ranges with thos esorts of arts it's mainly MMA (especially if you have BJJ/Submission wrestling in there too..)
It sounds good.
clips won't work for me...neither will the site...
nearest thing I;ve done is Japanese jiujitsu and kempo - neither were very good - some decent ideas but overall they were pretty poor - none of the moves working very well if at all..
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Posted On:2/25/2003 3:33am
Kirves, it sounds liek you;re just taking a MMA which is more JKD like than submission fighting like
Yeah, well, it derives mostly from Juko-ryu Jujutsu, Karate (Kyokushin) and Judo. Those are the main sources of stuff. And it usually has bareknuckle full contact instead of protective gear sparring, this is the reason why face punches aren't allowed in the common sparring.
clips won't work for me...neither will the site...
The clips take a (long) while to load, so I suggest you right-click on the link and choose "save as" so you'll see the progress of the download and don't have to look at a blank explorer screen wondering if anything is going to appear at all.
nearest thing I;ve done is Japanese jiujitsu and kempo
The nearest thing I have found to the Finnish Hokutoryu style is actually the stuff Marco Lala teaches on his videos. I have several of his videos and they are right on usable for me. Maybe because he himself is mixing Kyokushin Karate, Judo and Jujutsu...
Edited by - Kirves on February 25 2003 03:35:17
Posted On:3/10/2003 11:26am
"nearest thing I;ve done is Japanese jiujitsu and kempo - neither were very good - some decent ideas but overall they were pretty poor - none of the moves working very well if at all.."
hehehhe, Kempo? i'm surprise...oh well
thanks for the links-Canada needs it's own Gracie imo
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Posted On:3/10/2003 6:32pm
Style: submission wrestling
If you ever run into a style called Mijindo-Ryu JJ, don't even bother. It's pretty bad. Not YellowBamboo bad, but definitely not something to put time and/or money into.
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Posted On:3/21/2003 5:45pm
The main problem with modern jujutsu is that because REAL trad jujutsu is so rare most modern jujutsu is a freestyle slopply taught version of half learnt techniques, there are some good modern stles about, but there from people who learnt a original style well then developed it, such as the gracies etc...
Posted On:3/21/2003 6:27pm
I can say a little about the Ju-Jutsu that is commonly taught in Germany, which was a blend of Judo, Karate, Aikido and a couple of other styles devised in the late 60s (I think) as a method of self-defense for the police, border guard and other units. The choice of techniques is eclectic (as is to be expected), and has apparently undergone several updates in the last decades.
Sparring is encouraged and part of the belt-test curriculum starting with the yellow belt, in different stages of difficulty
(open-handed, fists, throws + groundwork, fists+legs, fists+legs+throws etc.).
There are tournaments with rules compatible with international Jiu-Jitsu tournaments - no contact to the head, medium contact to the body, kicks above waist level. Points are awarded for strikes and kicks, throws, pins, and submissions. Winning is either by points or by scoring Ippon on each of the three ranges: striking, throwing, ground.
All in all it's pretty good stuff - the weakness is possibly the lack of focus; it includes too much to really learn anything in detail in reasonable time.
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Posted On:3/22/2003 1:30am
Where in Germany are you?
You must be talkin bout the JJ 2000 program the have here. Very electic feel to it.
Prior to the end of 2000 there was more of a tradional feel except that the students were encouraged to create their own kata as a training method not just throwing a bunch of techniques together. For instance if you did a throw you had to follow up and explain WHY you did what you did.
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Edited by - Asia on March 22 2003 01:33:26
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Posted On:3/22/2003 1:04pm
create your own kata? that sounds kinda cool
kinda like advanced students with their own combos
this would further the understanding of the art i believe
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Posted On:3/23/2003 3:54pm
Asia - I was in Wuerzburg (northern Bavaria). Recently moved to the US, forgot to update my profile. I haven't heard about JJ2000 - what I was talking about was the Deutscher Ju-Jutsu-Verband ( http://www.ju-jutsu-net.de ).
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