Ankle locks from the guard

**Olly** · Posted On: 2/15/2005 4:50am

Can any bjj players give me some tips on getting ankle locks on from my opponents guard? Also, what other positions are good to start an ankle lock from? I have no problem pulling them on fellow noobs but I can't seem to hold onto them or get my legs in the right position against anyone better.

**Gumby** · Posted On: 2/15/2005 5:50am

I think footlocks work well with a good guard pass- if you're obviously looking for footlocks everytime you break his guard open, I think the chances are slimmer than if you were insisting on passing and then switched to the foot when it presented itself. Im personally not a big fan of footlocks, so you wont see me do them very often.

As far as other positions are concerned, there are alot of setups for footlocks and knee locks from the butterfly guard, if you can get your hips under your opponent.

**Grant** · Posted On: 2/15/2005 6:10am

Hey Olly,

Personally, I can't help you out much on this subject matter but I would advise you to come to the UK Throwdown and maybe a few more experienced guys can help you out and train with aliveness.

**Olly** · Posted On: 2/15/2005 6:13am

Any tips on hanging onto the foot before I've started to apply the lock? That is as far as I can get against any decent white belt before he slips out.

**Olly** · Posted On: 2/15/2005 6:16am

If the throwdown is happening around london I may be able to make it.

**Grant** · Posted On: 2/15/2005 6:20am

Originally Posted by Olly

If the throwdown is happening around london I may be able to make it.

Clicky: http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=20007

Bring a friend.

**Olly** · Posted On: 2/15/2005 6:37am

A bit out of the way for me, but if there's ever another one in the south east I'll be there.

KhorneliusPraxx · Posted On: 2/15/2005 8:06am

I haven't learned any submissions involving the legs yet.
Are they even taught to white belts or are they normally saved for more advanced students?

**Olly** · Posted On: 2/15/2005 8:11am

Ankle locks and heel hooks are the only submissions I have been taught so far, although I can still sub noobs with arm bars and chokes.

**Aesopian** · Posted On: 2/15/2005 8:29am

Originally Posted by KhorneliusPraxx

I haven't learned any submissions involving the legs yet.
Are they even taught to white belts or are they normally saved for more advanced students?

Generally, BJJ rules are no leg locks at white belt, some straight ones like achilles at blue, kneebars at purple, and maybe some twisting stuff like heelhooks at brown or higher. No-gi competitions are usually more liberal with them and allow all sorts of locks that are not allowed in gi competition.

As for what level leg locks are taught, I did a thread on this and it's all over the place. Reference: http://bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=16531