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  1. MrBadGuy is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex8876
    uhhhhhhhhhhh, i didnt say indestructible. Triangles are not indestructible. Chain punches are not t3h ul71m4t3 attack either. It's just that the science makes sense and it works. Stop being an asshole.
    Speaking of science, did you hear about how it uses evidence to support its claims?

    What a novel concept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex8876
    I know that, thats why i said THIS: Granted, you could still be cracked in the back of the head while standing, but at least you have a better chance of defending yourself on your feet, and/or using footwork to evade.

    the point is at least you might be able to avoid it if you are on your feet and can MOVE, whereas on the ground that is waaaaay harder to do.

    You might have a statistically better chance of avoiding a sneak attack while standing

    You have a much better chance of finishing someone off while mounted.

    Over all the mount is a superior position, where you can strike at almost no risk to yourself from the person mounted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex8876
    I know that, thats why i said THIS: [B]Granted, you could still be cracked in the back of the head while standing, but at least you have a better chance of defending yourself on your feet, and/or using footwork to evade.
    Do you see what you are doing? Seriously, do you see it?


    ]the point is at least you might be able to avoid it if you are on your feet and can MOVE, whereas on the ground that is waaaaay harder to do.
    Let me reiterate do you see what you are doing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex8876
    Maybe they either just dont really know about it, or arent willing to take the time to train it, or maybe they just say "hey, i'm good with what i already know...why should i change what i'm doing if it's already working???"

    That doesnt mean it's not viable.
    You're right, it doesn't. but which is more likely?

    Doesn't it stand to reason that if my LIVELIHOOD is based on my success in MMA (personal safety is on the line too!), that i would seek out the training methods that would best equip me to win my fights?

    It's very easy for you to stand on the sidelines and say, "oh, they're not doing it properly". Trust me bud, if someone knows the 'true way', there's a lot of money to be made in MMA that they're letting pass them by!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex8876
    I know that, thats why i said THIS: Granted, you could still be cracked in the back of the head while standing, but at least you have a better chance of defending yourself on your feet, and/or using footwork to evade.

    the point is at least you might be able to avoid it if you are on your feet and can MOVE, whereas on the ground that is waaaaay harder to do.
    "Standup-versus-ground" debate, the 10-to-the-26th-power retake.

    **** the false dichotomies, you don't know where you'll end up in a fight.

    Could it be, maybe, that the solution is to learn...both?

    Not wanting to shock anyone; just putting that out there...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vieux Normand
    "Standup-versus-ground" debate, the 10-to-the-26th-power retake.

    **** the false dichotomies, you don't know where you'll end up in a fight.

    Could it be, maybe, that the solution is to learn...both?

    Not wanting to shock anyone; just putting that out there...
    Never said it was bad to learn grappling. there is a pic of Bruce Lee putting someone in an armbar, albeit one that would be bad by today's standards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBadGuy
    Speaking of science, did you hear about how it uses evidence to support its claims?

    What a novel concept.

    Well than why dont you get a really good JKD guy, and a really good MMA guy, and have 2 fights. One in the cage, and one in the street. Then you will have evidence, one way or another.

    I actually think, that supplemented with some grappling, JKD could work in the cage, sans the Bil Jee and throat strikes, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by v1y
    You're right, it doesn't. but which is more likely?

    Doesn't it stand to reason that if my LIVELIHOOD is based on my success in MMA (personal safety is on the line too!), that i would seek out the training methods that would best equip me to win my fights?

    It's very easy for you to stand on the sidelines and say, "oh, they're not doing it properly". Trust me bud, if someone knows the 'true way', there's a lot of money to be made in MMA that they're letting pass them by!
    I never said what they werent doing wasnt "proper", just that maybe the vast majority of MMA people are misinformed about JKD. Either that or JKD people just arent interested in competing in MMA, something that i really wish they would do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex8876
    Well than why dont you get a really good JKD guy, and a really good MMA guy, and have 2 fights. One in the cage, and one in the street. Then you will have evidence, one way or another.

    I actually think, that supplemented with some grappling, JKD could work in the cage, sans the Bil Jee and throat strikes, etc.
    See, you are still dong it.

    What's even worse, you are changing the parameters you set mid-experiment. You would fail a Science course at this point.
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