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  1. grond is offline

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    Wall-bag Training

    Here's how I train to get 'harder' punches.

    Punch a wall-bag over and over again. Apply dit ja jow. Repeat.

    At my school we have two wall-bags, one filled with rice, one with rocks. I started on the one with rice, then worked my way up to the rock-filled bag after about 8 or 10 months.

    Here's a drawing of a wall-bag, or 'sao bao' that I found. http://www.kungfu-videos.com/sao_bao_sketch.html

    The point of this kind of training is to get your hands accustomed to punching hard objects, also to strengthen your wrists and punches in general.

    So, do other schools have this kind of training? What different methods are there for getting similar results? I've heard of karate-style makiwara training, but don't know any details about it.
    "It does not matter who the master is. It does not matter what the face looks like. The masters are of the Qimen school of qigong/meditation which is related to Zen. The master wears white robes, and the predecessor master wears bright gold robes. The qimen school travels the univers and is not restricted to what paradise they live in. It has many masters" -Serious Harm
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    Posted On:
    2/13/2005 10:31pm

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    Wall bags are an excellent way to train yourself to hit a completely stationary target, devoid of any footwork, mobility, or feedback. I heartily reccomend them to any Wing Chunner.
    Captain's Log: Just a little update for all my TRUE and HONEST friends out there:

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    2/13/2005 10:53pm

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    Well you dont spar with a wall bag.
    Its for conditioninga and developing power.
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    Posted On:
    2/13/2005 10:56pm


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    Wouldn't you get arthristis or something?
  5. lifetime is offline

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    2/13/2005 10:57pm


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    Yes you will. Modern training methods and conditioning are there for a reason.
    Rad ki was made up by adolescents. I do not know who created trad ki but it was not made by adolescents. your an ass dude, Im not being a little bitch you are, your past the level of a bitch. Your beyond Bitch! If im easting my time with ki and psi, then your wasting time to prove frauds, and all **** like that! -theoutsider

    Kick boxing is ok, but don't expect do beat a man like Rickson Gracie with that. You need a real martial art. You need Xing Yi Quan. -Emptyflower

    The splits, how ever, have a few martial uses. Doing the splits for me, can put my fists in testical strike range.

    dont ignore the Art for the Martial or else your just kick boxing

    Yes i am serious, there are kicks that can block punches. we have them in Moo duk kwan.
    I want to learn how to use them in case my arm gets broken in a fight.
    what would you have me do? if my arm gets broke, not block punches? -sempi-stone
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    Posted On:
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     Style: Krav / (Kick)Boxing / BJJ

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    Are you aware that the Japanese Army will not be charging your village wearing wooden armor anymore?

    You've shown how you're on the road to permanently disfigure your hands for no practical reason in the modern day.

    I'll repeat what Phrost and others have said: Professional Boxers (as in Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, Lennox Lewis, etc) have the hardest and most powerful punches employed in a fighting context.
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by grond
    Apply dit ja jow.
    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!
  8. MEGA JESUS-SAMA is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by samurai_steve
    Are you aware that the Japanese Army will not be charging your village wearing wooden armor anymore?
    When did they ever wear wooden armor?
  9. lifetime is offline

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    They didnt?
    Rad ki was made up by adolescents. I do not know who created trad ki but it was not made by adolescents. your an ass dude, Im not being a little bitch you are, your past the level of a bitch. Your beyond Bitch! If im easting my time with ki and psi, then your wasting time to prove frauds, and all **** like that! -theoutsider

    Kick boxing is ok, but don't expect do beat a man like Rickson Gracie with that. You need a real martial art. You need Xing Yi Quan. -Emptyflower

    The splits, how ever, have a few martial uses. Doing the splits for me, can put my fists in testical strike range.

    dont ignore the Art for the Martial or else your just kick boxing

    Yes i am serious, there are kicks that can block punches. we have them in Moo duk kwan.
    I want to learn how to use them in case my arm gets broken in a fight.
    what would you have me do? if my arm gets broke, not block punches? -sempi-stone
  10. grond is offline

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    2/13/2005 11:09pm


     Style: wingy chingy

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    What evidence is there that hitting bags gives you arthritis?
    "It does not matter who the master is. It does not matter what the face looks like. The masters are of the Qimen school of qigong/meditation which is related to Zen. The master wears white robes, and the predecessor master wears bright gold robes. The qimen school travels the univers and is not restricted to what paradise they live in. It has many masters" -Serious Harm
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