Wall-bag Training

**grond** · Posted On: 2/13/2005 9:04pm

Here's how I train to get 'harder' punches.

Punch a wall-bag over and over again. Apply dit ja jow. Repeat.

At my school we have two wall-bags, one filled with rice, one with rocks. I started on the one with rice, then worked my way up to the rock-filled bag after about 8 or 10 months.

Here's a drawing of a wall-bag, or 'sao bao' that I found. http://www.kungfu-videos.com/sao_bao_sketch.html

The point of this kind of training is to get your hands accustomed to punching hard objects, also to strengthen your wrists and punches in general.

So, do other schools have this kind of training? What different methods are there for getting similar results? I've heard of karate-style makiwara training, but don't know any details about it.

**Boyd** · Posted On: 2/13/2005 9:31pm

Wall bags are an excellent way to train yourself to hit a completely stationary target, devoid of any footwork, mobility, or feedback. I heartily reccomend them to any Wing Chunner.

**v1o** · Posted On: 2/13/2005 9:53pm

Well you dont spar with a wall bag.
Its for conditioninga and developing power.

**lwflee** · Posted On: 2/13/2005 9:56pm

Wouldn't you get arthristis or something?

**lifetime** · Posted On: 2/13/2005 9:57pm

Yes you will. Modern training methods and conditioning are there for a reason.

**Judah Maccabee** · Posted On: 2/13/2005 9:59pm

Are you aware that the Japanese Army will not be charging your village wearing wooden armor anymore?

You've shown how you're on the road to permanently disfigure your hands for no practical reason in the modern day.

I'll repeat what Phrost and others have said: Professional Boxers (as in Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, Lennox Lewis, etc) have the hardest and most powerful punches employed in a fighting context.