Page 2 of 3 First 123 Last
  1. #11
    Da Komrads... Again you are MadPelvisOwn3d! supporting member
    Red Elvis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Soviet State Of Kalifornia
    Posts
    2,201
    Style
    Spetsnaz Shovel-Fu
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Shuma and Deadpan are the correct.
    .
    :icon_twis
    .

    To fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence;
    Supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without spilling your Guinness.
    Sun "Fu Man JhooJits" Tzu, the Art of War & Guinness

  2. #12

    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Philadelphia
    Posts
    881
    Style
    Brazilian Jiu Jitsu
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I think you'd start to see the more grappling oriented fighters win more often should a few of the rules be changed, such as headbutts, and attacks to the spine (and I think its BS you cant stomp a downed opponent).

    The back mount doesnt look like as much as an advantageous position in UFC today because of limited strikes available within the rules. If you let the guy on back open up some elbows to his opponents spine, I think that would change very quickly.

  3. #13

    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    Southampton, England
    Posts
    1,172
    Style
    MT, BJJ
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Quote Originally Posted by jzs
    Kicking to the kidney with the heel.

    I don't understand why this one is in place.

  4. #14
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    A damaged kidney is serious bad news.

  5. #15
    stoogejitsu's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    CST
    Posts
    1,460
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    What if they allowed Giant City Smashing Robots; I'd like to see the changes to grappling if that were allowed.

  6. #16
    Vargas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    Northwest Florida
    Posts
    1,632
    Style
    submission wrestling
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    What about the 'no fingers in any orifice' rule? What's the use of being a grappler if you can't give your opponent an 'oil check'?
    "I had once talked to Billy Conn, the boxer, about professionals versus amateurs - specifically street fighters. One had always heard rumors of champions being taken out by back-alley fighters. Conn was scornful. "Aw, it's like hitting a girl," he said. "They're nothing."


    - George Plimpton
    "Shadow Box"

  7. #17

    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Posts
    3,530
    Style
    Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Well said.

  8. #18

    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Philadelphia
    Posts
    881
    Style
    Brazilian Jiu Jitsu
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Majique
    I don't understand why this one is in place.
    Kidney kicks, while painfull, are more long term damage than immediate damage. The slight edge it may give someone doesnt outweigh the risk factors of having a badly damaged kidney.

    In one of the Gracies in Action videos, Rorion explains that during one of Helio's fights, he heel kicked his opponents kidney for so often and so long that after the fight, his opponent was urinating pieces of his kidney.

  9. #19
    9chambers
    Guest
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    >Kicking to the kidney with the heel.

    That rule was made to prevent Royce from wrapping people up in a tight guard and driving his heel into their kidney over and over .. which he did quite frequently. A lot of those rules were added because of specific people. Tito, for example, always got a front choke and started sending knees to the top of the other guy's head until he drew blood and they stopped the fight. That's why there is a rule against that.

  10. #20
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Headbutting was taken out because of the risk of cuts, not to give grappers any sort of leg-up.

    But either way, a skilled grappler will be able to use headbutts, knees, or any other forms of striking from the ground better than any standup striker, simply by virtue of his better understanding of and ability to achieve positional dominance/superiority.

Page 2 of 3 First 123 Last

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Log in

Log in
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO