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Thread: Is BJJ just a fad?
8/17/2010 5:59pm, #881
I know what TMA stands for. But how do you categorize an art as traditional or not? Even some rex kwan do bullshit that was created last week will have traditions. Give me a definition that could be used to categorize arts that you haven't encountered already
What, in your mind, is it about karate or rkd that makes them "traditional?
8/18/2010 12:10am, #882
TMA - martial arts that train without aliveness.
Pretty much thats what people, myself included, think of TMA as.
Kyokushin is Karate but it doesn't suck because they spar. Tae Kwon Do does mostly suck though because there sparring is unrealistic and leads to poor habits.
Judo, BJJ, Sambo, Wrestling, Sanda, Kyokushiun, Boxing, Kickboxing and Muay Thai are all non-TMA. Pretty much any grappling form is not TMA.
Seriously u must be retarded or trolling trying to ask what makes something TMA. Live training, not TMA.
8/18/2010 12:28am, #883
What's traditional about not sparring? All those arts you say are non tma have traditions, ram muay in muay thai, white pajamas and belts in kyokushin etc but somehow that doesn't count?
Seems like everyone who uses tma vs mma really means arts i like and arts i dont like
8/18/2010 10:02am, #884
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A simple sentence like yours, but like yours, not enough to be evaluated.
I'm not mocking you Mikishman, every word in TMA has had threads debating their seperate meaning, and adding all three to designate something higher is difficult.
My TKD is an art that in theory, traces its roots back thousands of years. TKD is almost brand new.
BJJ is a new art, but its roots trace back into traditional time, therefore a TMA. Even in the new art, the bias given to a Black Belt from Brazil, vs a home grown BB, harkens back to a loose sort of tradition.
I made sure to find a Japanese Judoka to learn my Judo from.
MMA could be a TMA, because the claimed lineage, the way of doing things. The training and building of a MMA champ, is now following in the tradition of others who have trained to fight MMA.
All this to say is that members in this site, have a long tradition of argueing regarding the martial arts.
2/08/2011 11:27am, #885
I don't think an art that has become almost prerequisite to success in top tier mma, could be, in any way construed as a fad.
A lot of people don't know the difference between a les paul, and a Telecaster, or a Strat, and a 335 model. They are not fad guitars, they are mainstays, as is BJJ in upper level fighting. It's just your average non martial arts loving person doesn't give a ****.
2/08/2011 10:47pm, #886
Is BJJ a fad? Maybe as we know it today. Martial arts are always changing, expanding, shifting. But I doubt BJJ will ever really vanish.
Also, food for thought, this thread was made six years ago, which is probably a good sign that it's not a fad.
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2/09/2011 10:41am, #887
(Zips up flame retardant suit)
I think "pure" BJJ is starting to have less and less to do with real fighting/MMA, with all the crazy guard pulling tactics, wacky gi gripping manuvers, and the tear inducing level of takedowns and throws being taught in many gyms.
(Note to the reader: I am sure your gym has double legs taught by an Olympic freestyle wrestler. I am talking about EVERYONE ELSE'S gym)
Fad? It depends on what you mean by that. I think what we're going to wind up with is "BJJ for MMA" and "BJJ for the sake of BJJ" with the latter going the route of Tae Kwon Do, Wing Chun, etc.
3/04/2011 11:33am, #888
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3/04/2011 11:45am, #890
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Everything thing is a fad at one point in time, doesnt make something useless.