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  1. DKJr is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by aznraven View Post
    I know it had been a long time since last post, but I want to state my opinion....
    Do you even train grappling?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aznraven View Post
    I know it had been a long time since last post, but I want to state my opinion...

    I voted yes. BJJ is a fad just like Karate back in the day. People, I believe, will eventually move on to all-rounded grappling, like how karate moved on to full contact kickboxing.

    Even if it is still called BJJ, like how some kickboxing schools still teach "fighting karate" it will not be the same thing.

    BJJ is a part of grappling that has hole, so are many forms of wrestling, a complete grappling art will evolve and BJJ taught alone will be obsolete. Adding good Judo and wrestling takedowns in BJJ classes not taught by the Gracies is a step towards that, filling holes.

    "traditional" BJJ schools will fall out of favour.
    So... thread closed? Or will it be kept open, forever to be necro'd and thus magnifying the irony? :dontknow:
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Koresh Jr. View Post
    Do you even train grappling?
    Nope, like how MMAist like to comment on TMAist styles, I like to comment on something I just like watching.

    And to the earlier post, I explained, it will still be called BJJ, just like how there are "Karate" kickboxers but the techniques used and training methods differ far from the original.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aznraven View Post
    Nope, like how MMAist like to comment on TMAist styles
    "They do something stupid so it ok fer me tooo" good thinking.:eusa_wall
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Koresh Jr. View Post
    "They do something stupid so it ok fer me tooo" good thinking.:eusa_wall
    I don't think it is stupid, you don't have to train a style to have a grasp of its overall idea.

    If you have to train a style to comment on it, this forum would not exist.:jerk:
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    Quote Originally Posted by aznraven View Post
    Nope, like how MMAist like to comment on TMAist styles,
    What means TMA? Please define it in such a way that someone could take your definition and categorize arts they've never encountered before into TMA or not TMA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lindz View Post
    What means TMA? Please define it in such a way that someone could take your definition and categorize arts they've never encountered before into TMA or not TMA.
    TMA - Traditional Martial Arts, e.g Karate and tae kwon do
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikishman View Post
    TMA - Traditional Martial Arts, e.g Karate and tae kwon do
    Excellent point, do go on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KO'd N DOA View Post
    Excellent point, do go on.
    I'm not sure if your mocking me or not. I assume that you are. I was just answering the question that Lindz asked. Since he said "What means TMA?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikishman View Post
    I'm not sure if your mocking me or not. I assume that you are. I was just answering the question that Lindz asked. Since he said "What means TMA?"
    Your explanation is insufficient. The criteria was a definition that you could use to categorize arts you'd never seen before. Can you provide a definition that could be used to categorize arts as "TMA" or "not TMA" based on something other than what you think they are? Things like how they train, what they train, philosophy, strategy, etc?

    Defining Traditional Martial Arts as "arts that are called Traditional Martial Arts" is a circular piece of non-logic.

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