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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Jude
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    You are, of course, welcome to bitch about my post. Thanks for coming, I'm here all week... :laughing7
    As the martial arts community comes around as a whole and recognizes the need to spent at least some time on ground game, BJJ will simply fall behind the scenes for the most part,
    how is boxing or greco behind the scenes, to stick to those examples
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    i vote yes. totally a fad.

    it's all about wing chun nowadays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Negation
    how is boxing or greco behind the scenes, to stick to those examples
    When one looks at the martial arts world as a whole, are boxing and greco-roman wrestling at the forefront of martial arts being practiced? Have they not become "sportified" as BJJ (Gracie Kosen Judo) and Judo have?

    C'mon, this isn't rocket science... :icon_roll
    "Judo is a study of techniques with which you may kill if you wish to kill, injure if you wish to injure, subdue if you wish to subdue, and, when attacked, defend yourself" - Jigoro Kano (1889)
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    "The judoist has no time to allow himself a margin for error, especially in a situation upon which his or another person's very life depends...."
    ~ The Secret of Judo (Jiichi Watanabe & Lindy Avakian), p.19

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    sportified? If you mean theyre training method is superior to that of other martial arts, then yes. Sportified is not a bad way to describe it at all.

    Its the "sport fighting" that has made BJJ, Boxing and Wrestling so much better and useful then the other arts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GIJoe6186
    sportified? If you mean theyre training method is superior to that of other martial arts, then yes. Sportified is not a bad way to describe it at all.

    Its the "sport fighting" that has made BJJ, Boxing and Wrestling so much better and useful then the other arts.
    Okay.
    "Judo is a study of techniques with which you may kill if you wish to kill, injure if you wish to injure, subdue if you wish to subdue, and, when attacked, defend yourself" - Jigoro Kano (1889)
    ***Was this quote "taken out of context"?***

    "The judoist has no time to allow himself a margin for error, especially in a situation upon which his or another person's very life depends...."
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    I don't think Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is a fad it's just their not many ground styles like it the only ones I can think of other than Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu are Japanese Jiu-Jitsu, Sambo,folk style wrestling and Greco-Roman wrestling I'm sure their are more but those are the only one I know of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Jude
    When one looks at the martial arts world as a whole, are boxing and greco-roman wrestling at the forefront of martial arts being practiced?
    Yes

    Look at the Olympics for Greco (which is the most popular style of wrestling in Europe and is popular worldwide btw) and how popular world-wide boxing with representatives in the US, Europe, the ex-Soviet states, respectable presence in Japan and Korea, etc. They're really damn popular and widely acknowledged as useful to anyone with an interest in fighting or self-defense.

    , a Have they not become "sportified" as BJJ (Gracie Kosen Judo) and Judo have?

    C'mon, this isn't rocket science... :icon_roll
    sportified? you mean scientifically broken down and made more efficient?
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    Good lord morons of course BJJ is a fad. I mean come on its only the fastest growing martial art for the past 20 years!! Its not like its a major component in some new sort of limited rules fighting competition that would be ridiculous! Lets all just drop what we are doing and go train aikido then we can develop our ki together. :new_silly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Negation
    Yes

    Look at the Olympics for Greco (which is the most popular style of wrestling in Europe and is popular worldwide btw) and how popular world-wide boxing with representatives in the US, Europe, the ex-Soviet states, respectable presence in Japan and Korea, etc. They're really damn popular and widely acknowledged as useful to anyone with an interest in fighting or self-defense.


    sportified? you mean scientifically broken down and made more efficient?
    Is the Olympic Judo that 99.99% of judoka practice the Judo of Jigoro Kano? Here, let me answer for you:
    NO.


    Ground fighting is just a minor aspect of a complete combat game, which includes ground (grappling and striking), stand up (grappling and striking), weapons and multiples. As martial artists resurrect and revitalize their ground games, BJJ will fall behind the scenes as just one part of the ways to build sound ground techniques. Besides, it has been established by the Gracies themselves that the majority of BJJ techniques aren't really necessary (i.e. Gracie Combatives / "34 specific techniques... needed to achieve victory in 95% of all cases..."). Sounds like even the Gracies have trimmed down their huge "700 technique" style down to a minimal number of maximally effective techniques.

    So, yes, BJJ is a trend, the Gracie family has fallen pretty far off of their pedestal (due to losses, drugs, etc). BJJ will end up just another style in the Yellow Pages. Every decade in the last 50 years has seen it.
    Last edited by Jim_Jude; 4/01/2008 1:28pm at .
    "Judo is a study of techniques with which you may kill if you wish to kill, injure if you wish to injure, subdue if you wish to subdue, and, when attacked, defend yourself" - Jigoro Kano (1889)
    ***Was this quote "taken out of context"?***

    "The judoist has no time to allow himself a margin for error, especially in a situation upon which his or another person's very life depends...."
    ~ The Secret of Judo (Jiichi Watanabe & Lindy Avakian), p.19

    "Hope is not a method... nor is enthusiasm."
    ~ Brigadier General Gordon Toney

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