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  1. jzs is offline

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    2/12/2005 12:59am


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    Quote Originally Posted by Asia
    when you say BJJ comes form Judo you spark a 30 page flame war
    I'm new here.... so I'm curious, why would that, to me, obvious comment tend to spark a flame war? As far as I know, Kano taught Judo to Maeda, and Maeda to the Gracies.

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    I choose 'yes' because i am a jealous striking-oriented fighter.
    Okay,i am just kidding,my point is quite similar to Asia,though i think many novelty,before being popularized,goes through a phase of "fad"~~~
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    2/12/2005 1:10am


     Style: BJJ/Judo/HapKiDo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asia
    I'm hoping for zero g fights! Lets see you go toe ground then!
    Ahh, but in a zero g fight the flying armbar will destory all!!
    Is Wayne Brady gonna have to choke a bitch?
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    Posted On:
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    Ahh, but in a zero g fight the flying armbar will destory all!!
    True True :adora:

    I'm new here.... so I'm curious, why would that, to me, obvious comment tend to spark a flame war? As far as I know, Kano taught Judo to Maeda, and Maeda to the Gracies.
    Yes thats true but if you go to some sites like Sherdog, UG, etc they don't understand that simple fact.
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    2/12/2005 3:01am


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    Quote Originally Posted by punchingdummy
    There is certainly "none of that nonsense" in sport MMA, to which a good part of BJJ's popularity is tied.

    However, your momma's time is now if you live or work in Gaza, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Columbia, Chechnya, etc.

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     Style: Kyokushin Karate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asia
    All these things go in cycles. MMA is NOT new. Its been down before. It will decrease in popularity until some new aspect is brought in (I'm hoping for zero g fights! Lets see you go toe ground then!:toothy4:) But as lon as man has the need to choke the **** out of another man BJJ or something similar will be around.
    That's an interesting point.

    As an example, you could say that Mas Oyama was a pioneer in MMA. He did Shotokan Karate, Goju-Ryu Karate, Korean MA (Taekkyon?), was a 4th dan in Judo and if I'm not wrong, he did some Chinese Kung Fu as well.

    He went around whooping people's asses and thus, Kyokushin Karate came about.

    Same with all the Chinese masters like Sun Lutang who did Taichi, Bagua and Hsing Yi and probably started off with a hard external fist.

    Just no BJJ for all of them then to learn. :eusa_danc
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    Quote Originally Posted by samadhi_fire
    I voted no. I see it more as a phase.

    Back in your momma's time, used to be the stand-up arts because martial arts was part of their jobs. People carried weapons, people fought wars. Bodyguards and soldiers could not afford to go to the ground.

    Now, there's none of that nonsense and martial arts is more of a one to one thing. Hence, the rise in poplarity of BJJ.
    Ok.. this is where you jump up and say you're kidding right?

    'cause.. "back in your momma's time" ... "regular" jujitsu (you know.. that thing BJJ is based on) were pretty much teaching much of the same stuff..
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    2/12/2005 3:13am


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    Quote Originally Posted by samadhi_fire
    That's an interesting point.

    As an example, you could say that Mas Oyama was a pioneer in MMA. He did Shotokan Karate, Goju-Ryu Karate, Korean MA (Taekkyon?), was a 4th dan in Judo and if I'm not wrong, he did some Chinese Kung Fu as well.

    He went around whooping people's asses and thus, Kyokushin Karate came about.

    Same with all the Chinese masters like Sun Lutang who did Taichi, Bagua and Hsing Yi and probably started off with a hard external fist.

    Just no BJJ for all of them then to learn. :eusa_danc
    MMA=/=cross training
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    2/12/2005 5:24am


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    Quote Originally Posted by fanatical
    Ok.. this is where you jump up and say you're kidding right?

    'cause.. "back in your momma's time" ... "regular" jujitsu (you know.. that thing BJJ is based on) were pretty much teaching much of the same stuff..
    No. Let's say you're right and what they were teaching then is the same as now but the focus, application of training methods and needs of the person were very different.

    So... now you do BJJ because you've got a war that's fought with spears and swords to fight, your family to protect and thugs to fend off from your village?
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    2/12/2005 5:27am


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    Quote Originally Posted by liuzg150181
    MMA=/=cross training
    Hmm.. don't really want to get into this but my take on this is that MMA came about because strikers were getting their asses handed to them by grapplers so now, you need to know how to grapple or deal with grapplers or you're fucked. So you learn striking, takedowns and groundwork - all-round fighting.

    Back then, they didn't do grappling much. Stand-up was the name of the game. So you do Karate and you get your ass kicked by Judo. So you learn Judo or learn how to deal with Judo. Or... some old scrawny chinaman whoops your ass with Tai Chi. So you go learn Tai Chi or learn how to deal with it. All-round fighting pre-Gracies.

    Sounds the same to me but what do I know.
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