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  1. Moleculo is offline
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Can I just say that after all is said and done, the type of person who began BJJ for reasons of learning effective groundfighting will still be there, unlike the countless future whitebelts who joined because they wanted to be cool and quit when they found out that it takes effort to be a real fighter.
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    So if BJJ is a fad, when did it start being one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aesopian
    Oh, so basically, you're clueless.
    And just when I thought you BJJers didn't have anything new or innovative to add...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forseti
    I have seen BJJ and MT in pretty much every city I have been to. I do think that you will find a million more karate and TKD schools though. But, I don't see why that is particularly relevant.
    Because "fad" is defined in part by how popular and widely practiced something is?

    Reese, I think you're right in part. However considering that good blues and purples can teach I don't think that is just it. I also don't think that mma is as popular as you give it credit for. Don't dismiss the hometown hero aspect you may see around you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forseti
    And just when I thought you BJJers didn't have anything new or innovative to add...
    Your "BJJ is Kosen judo" argument has been done a million times before and barely fits your own arguments of BJJ being a fad. Once again, you manage to take something tangently related to a thread and run wild on a new topic you can barely connect to the actual discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aesopian
    So if BJJ is a fad, when did it start being one?
    You know when it became one -- when Royce Gracie started winning with it in the UFC. (At least, that is when it became a fad in America.) Of course, if they just called it judo or even Brazillian Judo it probably wouldn't have near the marketability that it does as Jui Jitsu especially along with the NHB angle.

    It's just promoting. Don't get me wrong -- I'm not exactly faulting the Gracies (probably Helio, in particular) the way Mehdi did for promoting their school. But lets not confuse this sort of promotion with something that really sets it apart from other schools. Judoka have been challenging boxers since judo began. Jiu Jitsu guys have challenged all comers since before that.

    Its just hype. That doesn't mean that Kosen Judo isn't good. It just means that BJJ isn't much more than an old Judoka's pointers. The Gracies are just that -- highly skilled judoka. If you study BJJ, so are you. (But since I'm not as good as they are, I'm sure I have no "authority" to talk here....)
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    BJJ has a monopoly when it comes to sportive groundbased grappling with the objective of a submission. It has clearly filled a void and satisfied a demand and doesn't have any real competition for the practicioners who are interested in the aformentioned style of sport.

    Therefore, it's here to stay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forseti
    Its just hype. That doesn't mean that Kosen Judo isn't good. It just means that BJJ isn't much more than an old Judoka's pointers. The Gracies are just that -- highly skilled judoka. If you study BJJ, so are you. (But since I'm not as good as they are, I'm sure I have no "authority" to talk here....)
    Hello, alter7nate.
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    So it has been running strong as a fad for over ten years?
    While I'm pretty sure it isn't one to begin with, that's the lamest counter-argument yet.
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    Where are all these kosen judo guys anyway?
    They seem as elusive as "real" wc'ers.

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