Jud0wned (Judo and the WC)

**wingchunnewbie** · Posted On: 1/27/2005 10:19am

Originally Posted by Jonny

You know, it'd be nice if just once the wingchunner came out best in one of these stories. Hey it might happen (and monkeys might fly out of my butt).

Anyway, nice work on educating him on the importance of groundfighting (and the weaknesses of WC) Greese1.

Jonny

It would've been, until I remembered that there was no footage to back up this story.

**Deadpan Scientist** · Posted On: 1/27/2005 11:05am

I agree, video plz

**infidel** · Posted On: 1/27/2005 11:30am

how come so many guys who have their style listed as wing chun seem all together pleased by this story?

**Stick** · Posted On: 1/27/2005 11:36am

They've gotten to that phase in the relationship where they think something's wrong if they aren't being beaten.

**wingchunnewbie** · Posted On: 1/27/2005 12:17pm

Originally Posted by infidel

how come so many guys who have their style listed as wing chun seem all together pleased by this story?

Because individual > club > style. I already know that lots of WC schools suck. I doesn't mean that mine does. Besides, I've seen Judoka and kickboxers who sucked too.

**Aesopian** · Posted On: 1/27/2005 12:19pm

The individual > school > system rule has been utterly corrupted by people trying to avoid admiting that their system just sucks through and through.

**wingchunnewbie** · Posted On: 1/27/2005 12:25pm

Originally Posted by Aesopian

The individual > school > system rule has been utterly corrupted by people trying to avoid admiting that their system just sucks through and through.

Somebody who trains hard in Wing Chun with resistance and high-contact full sparring, takes care of their conditioning and has a degree of natural atheleticism completely pwns fat american teenager who's just spent hundreds of dollars on a designer rashguard and trains in grappling a few hours per week.

**Aesopian** · Posted On: 1/27/2005 12:52pm

I believe you mean British teenagers.

**dramaboy** · Posted On: 1/27/2005 12:53pm

Originally Posted by wingchunnewbie

Somebody who trains hard in Wing Chun with resistance and high-contact full sparring, takes care of their conditioning and has a degree of natural atheleticism completely pwns fat american teenager who's just spent hundreds of dollars on a designer rashguard and trains in grappling a few hours per week.

Heh, it's your prejudice. I've been around grappling places here, and you don't really see fat american teenagers, but rather lean tatooed badasses. All the fat american teenagers do ninjutsu.

But I agree with your point. There may be WC schools that rock. But they are very, very, very, VERY, VERY rare, to the point that I haven't seen one and I've been seriously looking.

Tomas

**Greese** · Posted On: 1/27/2005 1:17pm

The guy probably weighs about what I do if not a bit more but he doesn't have as much muscle mass. However, he does out weight and out power gimpface.
I think he is still in the stage of thinking a lot of things in his system that suck, don't. For example he was talking about how hip movement isn't nessecary for striking. Eventually, I hope we get two sets of MMA gloves so that he can kind of see that in terms of what is going to work effectivness wise, shitty boxing is better than WC in a lot of cases.
In fact, at one point during gimpface messing with the guy, he just stood there and let the guy hit him for several exchanges. When I asked him what the hell he was doing he said "I am just trying to get use to getting hit, and these don't really hurt."