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  1. Jaguar Wong is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boogers
    ...As I only watch grappling arts on my UFC/KOTC/Pride videos, and have only a rudimentary knowledge, I am missing how guys on the bottom escape when they are top mounted.
    Wouldn't a "rudimentary" knowledge of grappling include escapes from the mount? I know that's probably the first thing I wanted to learn. Of course getting good enough to actually use stuff like the knee/elbow escape and the oompah is another thing entirely. I'm hardly the most qualified to say this (since I have yet to start a regular grappling class schedule), but if you want to know how to actually use the escapes (rather than just know about them), you're going to have to take everyone's advice and step onto the mat, take your chokes and armbars and learn the real (hard) way.
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    What is stopping you from going to a real grappling school?
    Money.

    It ain't cheap at the one school in my area.
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    Booger,

    What city to you live in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar Wong
    I know that's probably the first thing I wanted to learn. Of course getting good enough to actually use stuff like the knee/elbow escape and the oompah is another thing entirely.


    the oompah lol you mean the fat midgets from willy wonka's chocholate factory or the upa which is the basic mount escape.
    Eduardo "Why'd you stop."

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    Eduardo "Ino what happened but i didnt say you could stop."

    Me "Um.. I guess I keep going."

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    Originally posted by Ralek
    My cousin gave me some tapes of him doing tkd. I learned from those tapes. When I beat up an Akido instructor, and made him take rest breaks, I used TKD. I learned Bjj from watching ufc and pride and then I copied them and wrestled my cousin for practice. I choked him out and he tapped.
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    Barring grappling training your best bet is to flail and whimper while screaming "NOT IN THE FACE!!!!".
    Is Wayne Brady gonna have to choke a bitch?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bizzaro Root
    the oompah lol you mean the fat midgets from willy wonka's chocholate factory or the upa which is the basic mount escape.
    ROTFL, no wonder it doesn't work for me :)

    I'll add the upa to my list of basics to work on as well.
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    ok, lie flat on your back, then with both hands explosively push up on the chest. hard! as you are doing this turn to your side while keeping both arms fully extended. this should work on just about anybody that isn't twice your weight, and there are NO counters to this move!
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    To answer Mayhem, I live in Wollongong.

    Thanks to lifetime and infidel for your simple escapes. Thanks DaveMustaine for the link.

    The reason I asked the question is because I simply wanted to know if escape from such a position is possible at all. After seeing a video of Tito Ortiz on Letterman, and how he had the reporter in a side mount, I was thinking how little I know about how to defend if I was in a similar bad situation. The guy on the bottom was flailing bigtime! It scared me how helpless he was!

    BTW guys, how old is deus ex machina? Is this guy serious or trying to be funny?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boogers
    BTW guys, how old is deus ex machina? Is this guy serious or trying to be funny?
    Ha ha ha. This must be you first run in with deus ex machina. Yes, he is always like that, No we do not know how old he really is, and it is best to just ignore him.
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