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  1. Stick is offline
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Don't do many shin chokes, knee ride, yes, love the knee ride, but my shin chokes need practice.... I suppose I should work on those for the pwning of n00bs, but hey, it can wait.
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I've never heard of or seen anything like that "shin surfing"

    I've always been taught "knee on stomach" or "knee on chest" for setups for armbars

    I would think that the way that the guy was doing it in the vid would make him very open to being rolled since he was so far over. I've been taught to keep my knee in the middle to help keep my balance with the other foot posted out to the side.
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    Posted On:
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    And I've never been subbed by a shin to the neck..... can't really think of a way that could happen without the use of a collar
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    1/24/2005 10:49pm


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    We call it knee ride.

    We learnt a technique which I have yet to pull off in rolling, whereby you go for the triangle, their head goes up to prevent you from clamping down, as they do you let go, snake your foot under their jaw, turn your shin into their neck, grab the back of the head (clinch) and pull down onto your shin. Shin choke.
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by supercrap
    We call it knee ride.

    We learnt a technique which I have yet to pull off in rolling, whereby you go for the triangle, their head goes up to prevent you from clamping down, as they do you let go, snake your foot under their jaw, turn your shin into their neck, grab the back of the head (clinch) and pull down onto your shin. Shin choke.
    ya, the bjj blue belts I train with can pull it off sometimes, but for the rest of us mortals: good luck!

    and actually when I think they're doing the gogoplata, they grap their foot around the back of the head instead of the head itself but I could be wrong, regardless it's a move that I'll not be worrying about landing for a while
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    I'm skeptical about that shin surfing. Couldn't you just wrap your arm around the non-surfing leg and sweep? He could post, but it just doesn't seem very stable. Or grab the arm on the opposite side and sweep to that side. That seems like it would work. And that "takedown" from the clinch at the end was bullshit.
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    I'm not so sure about this position but not having ever tried it I am hesitant to slam it. He looks very off balance to me or there is a high potential for him to be very off balanced with this. I personally put the point of my knee onto his stomach or better yet onto his sternum and keep the other leg out so that I have a nice base. Almost anything they do when doing this puts them in a position for a finishing move. If all your weight is coming down into one point (the knee cap) as opposed to spread out over a whole shin the potential for more pain is there. Just my opinion though. :qbluepira
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by albert
    And that "takedown" from the clinch at the end was bullshit.
    "Don't do any of that judo head throw bullshit! That **** doesn't work..."

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Basically, shin on stomach is a retarded position to stay in, and it's fundamentally different from knee on stomach.
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    1/25/2005 9:24am


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    Quote Originally Posted by PizDoff
    I should add, I have never subbed anyone or seen anyone subbed with a shin ride on the throat.





    Gogoplata.....

    i was going to say from the bottum as super crap explained is nino's move aka the "gogoplata" but you have to be one limber mf to even get in that position.
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    Me "I was kicked in the head by the guys sparring next to me."

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    Me "Um.. I guess I keep going."

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    Originally posted by Ralek
    My cousin gave me some tapes of him doing tkd. I learned from those tapes. When I beat up an Akido instructor, and made him take rest breaks, I used TKD. I learned Bjj from watching ufc and pride and then I copied them and wrestled my cousin for practice. I choked him out and he tapped.
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