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  1. FingerorMoon? is offline

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    2/18/2003 5:44pm

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Unless that Avatar is a picture of you, you could be any height/weight. :)

    Yup, I was being very diplomatic. 'Borderline dangerous, blackholes of intelligence' is probably a good summary.

    Rep count can vary from person to person. For upper body I've seen HIT programs range between 6-10. I use 8 myself.

    Lower body can be where this style of training differs. The theory goes that the larger muscles of the legs take much more to fatigue than the upper body.

    20rep breathing squats are brutal.
    These threads from the Hardgainer forum can probably describe better than me. Check em out:

    http://hardgainer.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9109&highlight= 20rep+squat

    http://www.hardgainer.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=107

    No exercise is more brutal than this if you've got the balls to stick with it....which I didn't :)

    I'm kind of inspired now after rereading these actually. I'm going to get back into it.

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  2. Dochter is offline

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    Posted On:
    2/19/2003 11:20am

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    Yup, I was being very diplomatic. 'Borderline dangerous, blackholes of intelligence' is probably a good summary.
    Watch out you might get a syringe thrown at you and then be grunted at.

    I still need to read over the HIT page (actually had workto do yesterday) but thanks for the info. I'm still skeptical but thanks for the info.





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    Posted On:
    2/20/2003 11:33pm


     

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    FM I'm currently looking over the HIT article.

    I'll maintain my skepticism for a little while about the volume, though I also try and top out at 12-16 depending on how I'm feeling.

    As far as the compound exercises according to that view every exercise is compound since except for single arm preacher curls and the like it’s next to impossible to fully isolate a muscle. It reminds me of a comment a buddy of mine made half kidding that there wasn't any need to ever work shoulders as they get worked in pretty much every thing else you do (admittedly in support of this theory is the fact that most lifters have far bigger front than rear delts, which is why I split my actual shoulder work outs).

    As an additional aside, a number of football players I know train in a similar manner to what I do when they’re in the off-season. In season they can't get enough recovery time but other times they're fine. Also the majority of personal trainers (always the bastions of information that they are <img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>) work out in this manner.
    You're right to be skeptical; the HIT article was pretty much a re-hash of all the junk-science, more than a review of what works, and why.
    Also remember most football players retire before age 35 due to stress-injuries, while Personal trainers think "lactate threshold" refers to how much steroids they can take before they start producing milk.
  4. FingerorMoon? is offline

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    Posted On:
    2/21/2003 12:46am

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    What are you talking about Dan?

    The routine you've listed is HIT training.
    HIT training doesn't have to be Mike Mentzer style 1 set training.

    But you agree that football players are over trained and personal trainers are full of ****?

    The article is a basic introduction to HIT.

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    Edited by - fingerormoon? on February 20 2003 23:47:24
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  5. Dochter is offline

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    2/21/2003 11:31am

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    while Personal trainers think "lactate threshold" refers to how much steroids they can take before they start producing milk.
    LMAO

    The sad part is how obvious this often is.

    The fun part is when you're there long enough and you get to see the fools go through cycles, then off them, on cycle, off. Pretty damn hilarious.



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