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  1. VikingPower is offline
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    Yes Koto got his name changed, quit asking...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Collar
    I found a page that lists him as placing 3rd in the 153-170lb weight division in 2002, but tha's it.

    Far from being a champion, I would say. :thumbsup:

    MEN'S Weight Class 69<77 kg (153-170 lbs.)
    1st Place:
    Anthony Brewer, California

    2nd Place:
    Name: Kris Harrison, Colorado

    3rd Place:
    Primo Luciano, New York


    http://www.usjujitsu.net/news/nationals2002/index.htm
    Good find! :biggrin:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koto_Ryu
    It says in your profile you teach out of Horizon Martial Arts in West Seneca, but yet there's no mention of you on there at all under the instructors list (http://www.horizonma.com/instructors.html)(you would think having someone of your "credentials" and "titles" they would definitely put you on there, but sadly, no). You also said you represent Denz Dungeon Submission Fighting but the only reference I can find there is from Etapout.com, the online MMA game (http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=%22...b-t&fl=0&x=wrt).

    I'd also like to know who you defeated for the EFC lightweight championship (having fought in one myself in Virginia in 2001, one of the many Marines that did fight that day) and see a page that shows off your records. I also wasn't aware that NYJJ (not NYJJI like you spelled it) even had championships, they sure don't say any on their page (http://www.nyjiujitsu.com/index.html). And searching the JJIF website revealed no evidence of your so-called championship either (http://www.google.com/u/USJJF?hl=en&...=usjujitsu.net).

    Face it: you just got Bullshidoed :5dunce:
    I am an Issitint In structor. There is also No Listing of Scott Caffery
    Janice Strace or Boyd Ritchie.

    I beat Joe VadenEyden For The Belt
    at EFC 6 on Jan 24, 2004
    & I also Beat Silver Back Light Weight Vale Tudo Champ
    Wayde Choat at EFC7 March 05 2004

    Im Fight Again on Jan 29th 2005 at Promo West
    In Columbus Ohio. Against Rob Hendee ( Hammer House)

    If U want To Check it out That would Be Great
    Contact Bo Kimly Who is The Promoter for The EFC at Ju-Jutsu@bright.net

    He is looking for Fighters!

    Also My Web Site is being Worked on now
    By Silver Star Web Design

    Go to The United States Ju Jitsu Federation
    Web Sight & U will Find My Name in 1st Place
    under 2003. U.S. Nationals & can also
    Befound in American Samuri Magazine

    NYJJI Stoped holding Events in 2002
    But U can Contact Ernie Mcpeek About How Many Time's
    I won at NYJJI

    The 2001 North American Championships were
    held in Colling wood Ontario Canada U can Contact Patrick Barton
    Who Held The Event.

    My Picture & Prfile Are on Martial Talk
    Check it out I am holding both Belts

    As for The Horizon Martial Arst Web Sight
    it needs to be up dated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koto_Ryu
    Good find! :biggrin:


    I took 1st Place in 2001 & 2003

    In 2002 I went up a Weight Class & was Fighting Guy's 20 pounds
    Heaver Than I. I came out in 3rd place
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koto_Ryu
    Good find! :biggrin:
    Take The Same Link & go to the up date
    Page on New News & U will See My Name in 1st Place
    Under 2003
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    Yes Koto got his name changed, quit asking...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acekicken
    I beat Joe VadenEyden For The Belt at EFC 6 on Jan 24, 2004
    I can't even find his name on the Internet alone, much less with yours. Direct links please. No hits for a Wayde Choat either.

    Im Fight Again on Jan 29th 2005 at Promo West In Columbus Ohio. Against Rob Hendee ( Hammer House)
    http://www.promowestpavilion.com/sec...asp#newsletter has no real mention of any fights going on from a cursory glance, as you would think something like that would be much better promoted.

    Go to The United States Ju Jitsu Federation Web Sight & U will Find My Name in 1st Place under 2003. U.S. Nationals & can also Befound in American Samuri Magazine
    Links for the USJJF. And which one for AS magazine? They have lots of back issues at http://www.americansamurai.com/page/News.html, surely we could see where your name is.

    NYJJI Stoped holding Events in 2002 But U can Contact Ernie Mcpeek About How Many Time's I won at NYJJI
    There's no hits for "NYJJI" on the Internet either that even pertain to martial arts. Sounds more like BS to me.

    The 2001 North American Championships were held in Colling wood Ontario Canada U can Contact Patrick Barton Who Held The Event.
    Searching "2001 North American Championships" just really gives me bodybuilding competitions. And why would the North American championship be held in Canada?? :P

    My Picture & Prfile Are on Martial Talk Check it out I am holding both Belts
    Once they approve of me, I will.
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    Nothing to Erase

    Quote Originally Posted by Koto_Ryu
    And if he tries to change it before responding, here's his profile ;) This all came up due to his claim of beginning the martial arts at age 2, which was already proven wrong in the "What's your martial art?" thread.

    Birthday: March 17, 1975

    Primary Style: Hybrid Martial Arts

    Location: N.Y.

    Other Interests and Information:
    Im The Curent EFC Light Weight Mixed Martial Arts Champion,Former 2X National Ju Jitsu Champion(USJJF) 5XNYJJI Ju Jitsu Champion,2001 J.G.C. Grappling Champion & 2001 JJIF North American Ju Jitsu Champion...... I Am a Black Belt in Modern Arnis & J

    Martial Arts Experience:
    I started Martial arts at the Age of 2 Under My Father, I Have Been Training in Modern Arnis for almost 8 Years I have also Trained in Ju Jitsu,Sambo,Submission Wrestling,J.K.D. & Bondo. I have a Record of 3-In Mixed Martial Arts Fights,19 - 4 in Ju Jitsu & 6 - 2 In Grappling. I train & Teach out of Horizon Martial Arts & also Represent Denz Dungeon Submission Fighting.
    It's all True

    Like I have posted Contact Bo Kimly.

    What is Your Weight Class I can Use another
    Fight in the up Coming Futer
    My Next Fight is Jan 29th 2005 At Pro Mo West
    In Columbus Ohio
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    Seems like there may be an apology on the way.
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    Vids plz.

    Also......Collingwood? That little place?
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    Yes Koto got his name changed, quit asking...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acekicken
    It's all True, Like I have posted Contact Bo Kimly.
    His email address on his page however is different from what you posted. I got his from here: http://www.martialartsalliance.net/seminars.php

    What is Your Weight Class I can Use another
    Fight in the up Coming Futer
    My Next Fight is Jan 29th 2005 At Pro Mo West
    In Columbus Ohio
    I did see that on a better look (before dinner, I never have patience, I need food! :)) but couldn't find a fight card anywhere on the Internet for it. The link you previously posted doesn't work at all, this one however does: http://www.usjujitsu.net/news/nationals2003/index.htm

    We can see you did get the gold:

    MALE ADULT DIVISIONS – KUMITE

    WEIGHT CLASS – 62 < 69 kg ( 137 – 152 lbs.)

    GOLD – PRIMO LUCIANO – WEST SENECA, NY
    However this was the rules as stated on the page for that tourney that come close to explaining what you guys did:

    At this time the USJJF presents “duo” competitions and kumite. The “duo,” consists of two people partnering for performance of defense techniques; each player taking turn on attack and defense against grasping, embracing, club or knife, and punch or kick. Two teams are called to the tatami and each team performs the four categories of attack. After each partnership is done with their presentation, judges score the actions, and the duo with the highest overall score wins. Eliminations proceed on the chart in the same manner as in the kumite competition. Right now, the attacks are fixed in the categories and the referee tells you which attack you must use. The USJJF has decided that in national competition entrants will have an open attack choice and that you can make up your own attack for you presentation in the four categories. We want to go an open sequence, where you can make up your own attack sequence and then present it. We want to be able to include weapons in this presentation and use open hands against weapons, and weapons against weapons.
    It sounds like a jujitsu version of point sparring almost. And I don't think you want me as a sparring partner, if you're in the 137-152lb range, I have about 30 pounds on you if you're at the maximum of that range.
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