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  1. SLJ is offline

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    Side/Front kicks are good when you want to push someone away or into something, but they won't drop anyone. Unless it's hard in the balls, but for some people that's a small target :)

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    "Side/Front kicks are good when you want to push someone away or into something, but they won't drop anyone. Unless it's hard in the balls, but for some people that's a small target :)"

    I think the knee, shin, inside and outside on the thigh are also effective targets with these kicks.
  3. DRD

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    Asia, you are not the only target of the new tough guy southern justice. He is planning a visit to my house for a drive by looksee over the weekend.
    I have replied to his private mail, and also want to tell him here that he need not wait till the weekend, he is welcome to come to class tonight at 6:00. I will provide directions either in private mail or regular e-mail. Just write again and ask.
    You may join in anyway you care to.If you don't come till the weekend, be sure to knock on the door. As I said in the private mail, you will be received in exactly the manner you conduct yourself. Your call.

    BTW, if you are for real and want to deal with your problem with me, give out your real name. You have mine.
  4. Blad3 is offline

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    "Blade, the sidekick it the most powerful kick the body can throw and has greater penetrating power than roundhouse." not at all, you;re very rarely ever going to KO someone, or wind someone with a sidekick compared with the roundhouse:
    That's why in K1 etc. they throw mainly roudnhouses, and lots of them get KOs or serverly wind their opponent (look at E.Hoost and "CroCop" for example.)

    I agree SLJ: when you want to push them away.

    Look at Kyokushin Asian: Their main kick is often the roundhouse kick (at least in the tornement clips I've seen, and in K1 events) it's the most used kick, with the odd side/front and flashy kick thrown for more of a suprize factor.

    The Sidekick is given far too much credit sometimes, when in actual fact it isn't going to work properly most of the time, and when it does you just can't generate the force to maake it really hurt someone.
    Can you hurt some with a sidekick? Of course, but it's unlikely, and the person would have to be standing still practically..

    With kicks you;re only really going to be throwing roundhouses with some push kicks, but that's it.



    Edited by - blade windu on February 20 2003 08:13:31
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  5. SLJ is offline

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    Sidekicks can be more powerful, as long as you put all your weight into it. If you just pussyfoot it Taekwondo style it won't do anything.

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    1. SLJ and Blade, while there is a push type of kick that pushes opponents away the front snap to the groin or chin or solar plexus is not of this type. There is a difference between a front thrust kick (mae geri kekomi ) and snap or rising kick(mae geri keage), “Unlike the Rising Front Kick, the Thrusting Front Kick should have no rise in the foot movement. “It must chamber higher and driven straight forward making contact with the ball (or flat) of the foot.(1) And “the sidekick is the most powerful kick the body can throw and has greater penetrating power than (the) roundhouse”(2) There is a big difference between side snap kick (yoko geri) and side thrust kick (yoko kekomi geri). I think the side snap looks cool but I only use a rising side thrust hitting the bag or opponents. One can side kick high with out any warm up by tilting the upper body a little to the side and bent to the front-we were taught to twist the hips away from the target in order to reduce back and hip strain. This makes it look a little more like a back kick. If you doubt the power of the side kick go to a decent Japanese dojo. The full contact Kyokushin tournaments are often won with a single side kick.



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    lol yeah i know, but it'll rarely do anything, but not "more powerful" than a roundhouse kick.
    "Training = pain." - I said that.

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    I'm no great kicker, having lost most of my flexibility many years ago, but as far as I can tell, roundhouse kicks are good for KO's and hence great in competition, but you'll see a lot of them thrown without much effect. A good sidekick is a destruction, and hence not good for competition, as it's not good form to end another persons career.
    In short, a roundhouse might cause a KO, a proper sidekick WILL severly damage what it makes contact with.
    All this is strictly IMHO, as I no longer do kicks.
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    kick to the balls is good
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    (This thread went on while I made breakfast for the family and wrote it on Word-kid got yelled at enuf to load it last nite!)

    SLJ: on sidekick,
    "If you just pussyfoot it Taekwondo style it won't do anything." Again, this depends on the school. When my Kyokushin wasn't available I worked out for six months with a Chung Do Kwan Taekwondo dojang and got I hit by their teacher with a fast forward foot snap side kick to the floating ribs repeatedly and it hurt.

    The Kyokushin IKO tournaments I referred to were in the 80's and we watched clips of the champion putting all these people into the strecher to take to the ambulance (Ozuma?) using a fast sliding side kick.

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