REAL WING TSUN

**afronaut** · Posted On: 7/16/2005 10:57pm

The Man In Black has a point. Golden Gloves competitors and champs are pretty well recorded. If you are or were a competing a boxer, PM Phrost with your credentials and you'll get a tag on your account commesurate with your expertise.

Did you get a belt from Renzo Gracie too?

***JohnnyCache*** · Posted On: 7/16/2005 11:30pm

Originally Posted by bowers

:pottytrai Yeah, but Cung Le would sure do your GOOFY face to pieces...DUH. And oh, yeah, :3some:
as if any ole GG can just go regionals, Nationals, Pan-Ams and then of course, Olympics and Pro>> DUH...Tell me JohnnyCache? How would you do Cung Le? Yeah, come on, tell us...oh, wait, I know, you would just do a MMA take down, then, a rear naked choke and finish him off?, Right? ba wa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Hey, AHHHHHHHHHHHHHh, Johnny? Then you WOKE UP, HUH? :hiding:
:booty:
:mm: Somethin smells bout you, JohnnyCache? I smell a real big FATTTTTTT GUY behind that keyboard? Do you bathe? Ba wa haaaaah haaaaaaaa :wrestlerb

:5sigh: You got me - I'm actually pretty fat. There's pictures of me on this site - it's not a secret that I am no ballerina. :laughing1 I also don't do MMA, and have never said a damn thing about finishing anyone, anywhere, with an MMA takedown. You would know that already if you'd been paying attention.

Is that post supposed to be some sort of attempt to get me to say I could kick Cung Le's ass? Because I can't. What does that have do with the thread? Nothing. Are you such a keyboard warrior you can't even threaten me yourself, you have to project your frailties by proxying Cung Le into your fantasies of kicking my ass?

Now, what would an MMA competitor of Cung Le's caliber do to him? Say . . . Sakuraba? I don't know, but I'd pay to see it.

All I'm saying is that if you won the brooklyn GG, you could have moved on in boxing. If you have been training with Renzo Gracie for "ten years" with time to switch to another art after some mysterious little guy cold cocked you, you would have had to start between 1990 and 1995 . . . Renzo's only, what, 38? So he was 23? 25? when you started training with him? Has he even had his school in new york that long? Wasn't that the part of his career when he was fighting himself?

If you had 10 years training with Renzo, you should be pretty established in new york's grappling scene, right? If someone could lure you away from boxing and grappling to TMA, they'd have to be pretty remarkable, wouldn't they?

But you're not going to confirm, deny, or even dignify any of this with a coherent response - partly because you aren't capable of making one, and partly because your story is probably simply not true.

**bowers** · Posted On: 7/17/2005 12:22am

:XXknight: :3some: :bootyshak :hippy2: :mumum: :blob1: and an engine never needs to write its name.

"(absence of evidence is not evidence of absence)."

**DARKSON** · Posted On: 7/17/2005 12:38am

My mom always told me not to pick on the special people.

***JohnnyCache*** · Posted On: 7/17/2005 12:42am

Originally Posted by bowers

:XXknight: :3some: :bootyshak :hippy2: :mumum: :blob1: and an engine never needs to write its name.

"(absence of evidence is not evidence of absence)."

The validity of your claims comes under focus when you use them as evidence of your points. If you'd rather not be questioned about your experiences, keep your lip shut about them and make your points without the dubious help of your "history"

**DARKSON** · Posted On: 7/17/2005 12:45am

Originally Posted by bowers

This proves Anthony what's-his-face does NOT do WC so STFU:
"his hooks and high roundhouses"

www.google.com

**bowers** · Posted On: 7/17/2005 1:30am

"Meaningless question."

Johnny? At least your ego is not ALL MMA. Respect that.

My point was for MMA :new_alien should not underestimate what they have NOT experienced.

Peace
:icon_stud

***JohnnyCache*** · Posted On: 7/17/2005 1:41am

Originally Posted by bowers

"Meaningless question."

Johnny? At least your ego is not ALL MMA. Respect that.

My point was for MMA :new_alien should not underestimate what they have NOT experienced.

Peace
:icon_stud

And what haven't they experienced? Not asking to badger you, I really can't tell what the **** you've been trying to say for three weeks.

Are you saying WC is a 'better' art then MMA? Are you saying Cung Le can kick somebody's ass?

Can you please put into one or two complete, rational sentances just what the hell you've been trying to say since you joined this site? Because you really come across as part of the white noise of the internet. If you're not, prove it not with further braggidocio or flaming, but by calming down, getting out a spell checker, and telling us your point.

**bowers** · Posted On: 7/17/2005 2:15am

Simple:

My point is, "Do NOT judge KF you haven't seen or fought against especially street KF."
WC is NOT my ticket BUT it's better than most MMA give credit to because they saw public style Dan Inasanto or Leung Ting and Chueng stuff. Henry Leung's students are pretty
decent fighters. MMA only sees the MUSCLE-HEADS. The unseen KF I saw has so many
NON-MYSTICAL 'psyche' elements we in the West are NOT ready for. I don't want to cloud the message with examples. Cung Le is JUST a physical manisfestation that we have all seen as an example of decent KF. The other previous mentioned 'psyche' issues are NOT of his realm. I so badly underestimated this dimension and learned quickly how lame we are here in the West.

***JohnnyCache*** · Posted On: 7/17/2005 2:31am

Originally Posted by bowers

Simple:

My point is, "Do NOT judge KF you haven't seen or fought against especially street KF."
WC is NOT my ticket BUT it's better than most MMA give credit to because they saw public style Dan Inasanto or Leung Ting and Chueng stuff. Henry Leung's students are pretty
decent fighters. MMA only sees the MUSCLE-HEADS. The unseen KF I saw has so many
NON-MYSTICAL 'psyche' elements we in the West are NOT ready for. I don't want to cloud the message with examples. Cung Le is JUST a physical manisfestation that we have all seen as an example of decent KF. The other previous mentioned 'psyche' issues are NOT of his realm. I so badly underestimated this dimension and learned quickly how lame we are here in the West.

What, specifically, are these abilities?

Why is it needful to HIDE those elements?

Who has them?

Where did you see them?

In what way are we "not ready"?

Also, keep in mind that we might be asking some of these questions out of genuine curiosity - if this stuff exists, we'd like to see it. Berift of the luxury of a life of lesiure, however, we cannot expend our livelyhoods on pilgrimages to China based on anything but the most relieable accounts.

See what you could be doing intstead of belaboring the point that Cung Le could probably beat my ass?