1/14/2005 11:18pm, #41Originally Posted by Shumagorath
I wouldn't think so. Without the biting, there's really no reason for the attacker to try to move the head, is there?
I've got to sign off and probably won't be back on until tomorrow evening, if anyone wants to continue the thread in this vein.Originally Posted by Canuckyokushin
1/15/2005 12:06am, #42Originally Posted by RedElvis"We spoke to them in the only language they understood: the machine gun"
1/15/2005 12:31am, #43Originally Posted by HoneyBadger
Again, I'm only saying this because I've been bitten on the chest and it was not a smart thing for the guy on the bottom to do.Originally Posted by The Wastrel
1/15/2005 1:48am, #44
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Kino Mutai... Well, I'll be damned! You learn something new every day. This might make for a good thread.
Edit: This has been discussed to death already. No thread needed. Must add biting to my grappling game! BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Note: I will say this though... there is still a difference between biting on the ground and knowing how to grapple and biting on the ground. I wouldn't consider biting as an end all by ANY means! Learning to escape the mount w/out resorting to the D34dly Bit3 is still important. But, that's just my opinion.
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1/16/2005 10:17am, #45
Originally Posted by HawkeyeKuha'o - Kela - Koa
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1/16/2005 1:32pm, #46Originally Posted by HoneyBadger
2. "Bit" at my stomach. I couldn't throw effective punches because his head was in my midsection.
3. As I pushed his head away from midsection, my legs opened up a little. He immediately switched his grip so that he trapped the leg on the side that opened up and "bit" the upper thigh, although he could have rolled me over to one side and escaped.
4. As I put my hands down to move his head again he grabbed my hand and "bit" the fingers.
In your case it was friendly sparring v biter. Basically a situation where one guy had handcuffs on and the other could do anything he wanted. Not a fair and accurate assesment of a reality streetfight, which is obviously where you guys were going if you are including biting.
You were basically sitting on top of him trying to keep position, while he was playing dirty streetfighting tactics. One of you was at a severe disadvantage.
Let me put some perspective into the picture. 'IF' and only 'IF' this were 'teh real' and someone was trying to bite me I could, from the mount, quite easily put both my thumbs into his eyesockets and gouge the **** out of him. Not much he could do. Sure he could try to grab my fingers and bite them, but I think the concern for his eyesight would put him into a panic instead.
And the reality of the mount is the punches that are inevitably coming. Full force gravity fed bombs while the other guys head is pinned. Basically the floor is an anvil, your fist is a hammer, and his head is a mellon. And when you realize how BADLY punches from the mount hurt, even light ones, because your head has nowhere to go you put more perspective in that simply sitting on someone and waiting for them to bite you. When someone bites you they recieve punishment. Punishment like Scott Morris v Pat Smith. If they bite you you grab the inside of their cheek and fishhook them until their face tears open.
What I am saying is that you had a completely unrealistic and 'McDojo' style defense against the mount. In effect it was the 'what if I throw a punch at your head', and the instructor is able to launch off all these neat attacks while your fist hangs in midair for 5 seconds. Like I said earlier you were in handcuffs trying to keep position and he is going streetfight. To make it a bit more realistic you could have hit him real hard right off the bat and then eyegouged him as he bit you. It would devolve into a who-can-get-nastier-faster style of fight.
And I promise you.... The guy on top in the mount can get nastier, faster and be more effective than the guy on the bottom.