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  1. DiscoZ is offline

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     Style: MT, BJJ, VT

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    Interesting discussion. As someone who recently took up MT, I would love to spar some WC/WT practicioners to see how their trapping works. My clinching is **** though.
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     Style: Muay Thai

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    The only reason I'd take Wing Chun would be to learn how to efficiently chainpunch. And I probably wouldn't learn it well.
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     Style: Canadian Shidokan

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    Chain punching = bullshit

    Punching with a chain, now that is the **** !
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    I liked your post WCL! Personally, one thing I didn't see mentioned that bothered me was how unnatural everything seemed in WC. None of the movements seemed comfortable to me, and I think that's actually an important aspect. I can't apply techniques I'm not comfortable with.
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     Style: Wado Kai

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    WCL, the only question I have for you is about time frame. Any style I've seen, it generally takes 5+ years to master. Is WC the same way, and, as a follow up, is that a bad thing?

    I know **** about MT or BJJ, but from this board I get the impression that they are simpler, more straightforward styles to learn. Does this mean that you can learn the entire style in a year or two? What then?
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     Style: Canadian Shidokan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feryk
    WCL, the only question I have for you is about time frame. Any style I've seen, it generally takes 5+ years to master. Is WC the same way, and, as a follow up, is that a bad thing?

    I know **** about MT or BJJ, but from this board I get the impression that they are simpler, more straightforward styles to learn. Does this mean that you can learn the entire style in a year or two? What then?
    There is a diference between how long something takes to master and how long it takes to be useful in combat.
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    Posted On:
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     Style: In Transition

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronin69
    There are 3 ways to generate destructive force in a strike:
    1), the typical boxer/karate way, with speed and mass, creating momentum etc.
    the whole f=ma thing
    2), the short range "kinetic energy" method for systems like Taiji, and to an extent some WC schools, the whole ke=1/2mxa2 thing ( impulse and all that)
    3) the combination of the above.
    Please, stop. None of those equations make any sense. Not only that, but applying pure physics to a real world situation doesn't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poop-Loops
    Please, stop. None of those equations make any sense. Not only that, but applying pure physics to a real world situation doesn't work.

    PL

    You apply them to biomechanics
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     Style: Shaolin Kung-fu, FMA, BJJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by virtual_mantis
    I think Wing Chun is a good fighting system for close quater fighting. For example lets say you're in a closet and someone starts to mess with you. Wing Chun is the perfect system for this situation.
    Yes wing chun is a close quarter combat system, that is the whole point of it. In my experience with wing chun I believe it would be most useful to know wing chun,in addition to another martial arts style more geared towards long range attacks. If you know both, you can use your long range style to get up on your opponent, then when you are close enough, switch to wing chun as now it would be more effective. If trained efficiently and correctly, wing chun can be a deadly style.

    Also, wing chun is one of the quickest roads to self defense if that is what you are looking for. Since it was created by a nun for a woman, it is also very effective against larger opponents.
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     Style: Judo, Jujitsu

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    My main beef with wing chun is that the training methods don't accurately follow the underlying principles. Primarily, one of the principles that my Sifu always talked about was "If there's nothing stopping you, don't think about his arms, just hit the guy." Yet all the drills and all this were focused on the hands and arms.....
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