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  1. Dochter is offline

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    "I find it intellectually stimulating and I think a lot of people feel the same way. For proof, not the disproportionally large amount of literature on aikido."

    Really? There's tons of crap on every MA.
    I'd also to say that the "intellectual" part is missing in a disproporionally large number of aikidoka. Add a "pseudo" and you might be right.
  2. Nightz is offline

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    Posted On:
    1/07/2005 12:45pm

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    Quote Originally Posted by WingChun Lawyer
    My opinion is that WC will take you much, much longer to turn you into a killing machine than muay thai or kyokushin.
    Well historically wing chun was designed to be the ultimate no bullshit, kick ass system.

    I guess somewhere along the line, with so many people passing it down it got corrupted in theory.
  3. Onecardshort is offline

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    Posted On:
    1/07/2005 12:46pm

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    wot doct said (and start speeling your disproportional correctly you 'orrible little grappler)
  4. Dochter is offline

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    "I guess somewhere along the line, with so many people passing it down it got corrupted in theory" and from all reports 99.9% of practice.
    Last edited by Dochter; 1/07/2005 12:59pm at . Reason: clarity
  5. Dochter is offline

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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onecardshort
    wot doct said (and start speeling your disproportional correctly you 'orrible little grappler)
    My neanderthalesque fingers prevent proper typing and my slopping brow makes it hard to read the text on screen. I am afterall a brutish grappler.
  6. wing_muay is offline

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    Posted On:
    1/07/2005 12:53pm


     Style: WC, Muay Thai

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    I remember similar conversations when I had switched from WC to MT....at that time, WCL, you were defending WC... :-)

    Ironically, I have started WC training again (along with MT). But while I train MT as a combat art, I go to the WC school more for the fun-workout equation...lots of camaraderie, stretching, etc...

    I still hate chi-sao...I see no point in it at all. We used to spar in my WC school and our sifu would allow us to use non-WC techniques...and it opened my eyes to the impracticality of the so-called trappping range techniques. Even stuck in a closet, I would use the MT clinch in a fight anyday.
  7. Jostein is offline

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    Posted On:
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     Style: BJJ and WT

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    In my opinion,a good Wing Tsun practicioner could be very hard to beat.
  8. Dochter is offline

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    Posted On:
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Apparently there have never been any good wt/c practicioners who have ever got into a fight with someone not doing the same style.
  9. WingChun Lawyer is offline
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by wing_muay
    1) I remember similar conversations when I had switched from WC to MT....at that time, WCL, you were defending WC... :-)

    2) I still hate chi-sao...I see no point in it at all. We used to spar in my WC school and our sifu would allow us to use non-WC techniques...and it opened my eyes to the impracticality of the so-called trappping range techniques. Even stuck in a closet, I would use the MT clinch in a fight anyday.
    1) We hates you. We hates you very much, yesss. See, that is why I put "my CURRENT opinions on wing chun" at the title of this thread. I literally got some sense knocked into my head since then.

    2) I disagree, I still use trapping during sparring matches at the MT gym, I consider it one of the good points of wing chun - maybe because the other guys are simply not ready for it, who knows. To each his own, of course.

    And guys, please, try not to derail or troll this thread. We are mostly having an unprecedented serious discussion on wing chun here, let´s keep it that way.
    That civilisation may not sink,
    Its great battle lost,
    Quiet the dog, tether the pony
    To a distant post;
    Our master Caesar is in the tent
    Where the maps are spread,
    His eyes fixed upon nothing,
    A hand under his head.


    - W.B. Yeats
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    Posted On:
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    I thought that the reason Wing Chun has no power hits is that it was designed for diminuitive Chinese peasant girls from the 1700s who couldn't power hit worth a damn in the first place. WC was supposed to be the next best thing to actually being able to power hit, I understand.
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