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  1. PoleFighter is offline

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    1/06/2005 7:27pm


     Style: Sandbagged BJJ white belt

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Nog was actually heavier this time around (does the fact that he's three whole inches taller make this totally irrelevant?).
    I pointed at him [the panhandler], bringing my rear hand up in a subtle approximation of the double Wu Sau guard that is the default hand position in Wing Chun Kung Fu.

    "Step away," I hissed.
    -Phil Elmore
  2. gojuJKDdude is offline

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    well nogueira is even smaller so whats your point Hapko?
  3. Dochter is offline

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     Style: BJJ

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Peedee sounds like every bullshido artist after the UFC.

    They're just big. They have no technique.
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     Style: 10th Planet JJ

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I particularly like the second clip. You can see just how slick Fedor is in setting it up - punch, clinch and throw into side mount in one smooth and seemingly effrotless motion.
    You say what about my rice?
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    1/06/2005 7:54pm

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     Style: BJJ

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Bah. No technique.
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     Style: BJJ - Homeland Security

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I'd buy the "no technique" argument if you showed me only #7.
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     Style: 10th Planet JJ

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Why? In #7 Mino does a good job of defending and establishing guard. The takedown attempt wasn't half bad.
    You say what about my rice?
  8. lifetime is offline

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    1/06/2005 8:16pm


     Style: TKD, MT

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    It only looks like no technique because you don't see it in slow motion.
  9. Shuma-Gorath is offline
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     Style: BJJ - Homeland Security

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Looking at it again Nog might have tried to fall to guard, but while Fedor might have brought him down he didn't have control over him.
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    1/06/2005 10:28pm


     Style: Indi-Yogi-Jitsu! jk, BJJ

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    No technique on Fedor's part? Geez... I mean, I'm a huge fan of Nog, I really wanted Nog to win this fight, and I don't like Fedor's style, but...to say no no technique? I just don't think that's true.

    1st vid:
    1) Fedor sets up his take down perfectly, he gets nog to duck by throwing a wild punch, then gets the right underhook.
    2) His left hand then drags Nog's right across his body as what I take as a deliberate fakeout. Nog falls for it, and extends his right hand back out wide.
    3) This does two things, it causes nog to step his left foot forward, and it allows Fedor to grip underneath Nog's left armpit "Ippon-Seoi-Nage" style, and allows Fedor to drag Nog's right hand across his chest, as Fedor takes a knee to complete the hip throw.

    Now, I don't know about you, but that throw looks almost near perfect as an Ippon-Seoi-Nage takedown. I guess one thing I see wrong with it is that Fedor doesn't get all the way under Nog's hips.

    2nd vid looks like a very well executed Osoto-gari leg takedown. Again capitalizing on the missed punch.

    Man, it looks like he's got good takedown techniques. Also, check out Fedor vs. Nog 1, and you'll see when Nog and Fedor get caught in the corner, Fedor executes a perfect sweep from the bottom. Bridges up, traps an ankle and controls the arm.

    I dunno guys, even though I don't like Fedor's style, and I wanted Nog to win, Fedor really looks like he's more than just a big guy with no skills. Afterall he's only 10lbs heavier than Nog (220ish vs 230ish). The man has ground game...I mean he's subbed a Balck belt Judoka (Ohyama), not to mention Mark Coleman with one of the sickest arm-inside inverted armbars that I've seen...
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