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  1. ojgsxr6 is offline

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    Body Weight Exercise routine

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    I've started strength training for the first time in years. I've decided to do bodyweight exercises because I'm too cheap to by a weight set. So I bought a Pullup/Dip/Leg Raise rack. Right now I'm trying to recreate this routine using body weight exercises, http://www.abcbodybuilding.com/magaz...ss_workout.htm but I'm too weak to do alot of pullups.

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    I'm looking for bodyweight training routines that have worked for you or you know of etc. I think TaeBo Master said he liked Matt Furey's book Combat training a while back and I'm picking that up. But anything you guys can tell me would be great. I don't feel like I've worked out after doing a couple of pullups and some negatives.
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    Check out this website, I've heard really good things about this guy's routines.
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    He doesn't mention the frequency I should do the routine, from common sense I know it shouldn't be done everyday but what do I know. Also what about the whole deal of Upper body one day, cardio another day, lower body the next etc.
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    The isotonic exercises I know are to be done daily. I really can't help you out though, they are too complex to describe on an internet forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ojgsxr6
    He doesn't mention the frequency I should do the routine, from common sense I know it shouldn't be done everyday but what do I know. Also what about the whole deal of Upper body one day, cardio another day, lower body the next etc.
    From what I understand, the routines are meant to be done 3x a week (on the FAQ page). His routines seem geared more towards muscular endurance, and were specifically designed for martial artists (he originally started posting on mma.tv). I'm not a certified fitness person, so I'm unable to comment on anything other than what I've heard from friends/acquaintances. All of them think his stuff is legit and works, but again, I have no personal experience with it. By all accounts though, he seems to be in pretty rockin' shape. Aloha.
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    Furey's Combat Conditioning is good for overall fitness, endurance, and flexibility but if you're really trying for strength training, check out Pavel's Naked Warrior routine. It's just two exercises (pistols/one-legged squats and the one-arm/one-leg pushup) but its all about how you do them. I do the NW routine whenever I can't get my hands on a kettlebell and it's excellent stuff.
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    If I may:

    BWE ( body weight exercise) are ideal for building muscular endurance, though, beginners can get strength build up from them to ( if the reps they can pumpu out are to the max of the 8-10 range or less).
    Then, for Strength purposes, you must get a weight belt that allows you to add weight to your own bodyweight.

    For muscular endurance, alternating cardio ( MA) with BWE is fine, though if you are using them to build strength ( less than 8 reps to failure perferably) you may need more recovery time, only you can tell, as long as you are progressing regularly ( either more weight is being lifted of more reps are being done) whatever frequency you are doing is fine.

    As for the exercises:
    Chins
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    Squats ( you may need a sturdy platform if you are using a weight belt)
    Push-ups ( though dips work the same muscles and better, IMO).
    You can also get some adjustable DB to add to the mix.
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    My problem is that I can't do alot of reps of pullups. I wind up doing about 4 sets of 2 reps. And I don't really feel it like when I used to weight train, even then I couldn't do many pullups then either. I may be wrong but I've always thought to failure was not until you couldn't do it anymore but until you felt soreness and that was a sign that you had worked out your muscles to the limit.
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    Strength trining inand of itself is a good thing. But, for us martial athletes it can be detrimentl unless you realize that it is better to add weight training to your current training routine, than to replace a portion of training with it. Your new muscles will conform easily to whatever you want, if you don't stop your ma training togain them.

    I have tried Furey's program (only the beginning stages, although I did have the entire program), and I have talked with friends who were doing Scrapper's class. It sounded very similar, but I could be mistaken.

    R69's advice is great. the only thing I would add, if you're having problems with the chin-ups, is rows. To do bodyweight rows, hang from a bar suspended low enough to look like an upside-down push up.

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    ojgsxr6, try this for pullups. Everyday, do your max # of pullups, spread throughout the day. DO NOT go to failure. For example, if you can do 2 pullups and fail on the 3rd, try doing 2 pullups every 2 hours or so (I know, incovenient as hell...and coworkers tend to think you're a bit weird). Or play around with it, but basically try to do you max reps but spread the sets out over the course of a day. Do this every day. Give yourself 5 weeks then retest your pullup max. Just my thoughts (but not my idea), FWIW.
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