these people may or may not be good martial artists, but I call bullshit on their lineage and on the name of their style
i've seen it done in japan. i think it's gay, but i've seen it done
Originally Posted by Peter H.
Looks somewhat suspect to me. I am not familiar with his history or lineage, but I have only been training a short while. I will ask my sensei if he is familiar with it.
It is also my understanding that Katsuyuki Kondo is the recognized head of Daito Ryu.
Last edited by Kinzei; 1/04/2005 11:26pm at .
I have major problems with Williams and his lineage. Read:
[....]Of The Minamoto and Aizu clan Samurai which can trace its ancestry back to the
emperor Senwa Tenno
The Daito Ryu Was Inherited by soemon Takeda1853
Who passed it on to
Who in turn passed it on to his son
Who passed it on to
He passed it on to
Who passed it to
Who passed it to the currant head of Family
Gunshi John Williams [...]
There is NO, absolutely NO supporting evidence for the teacher Williams calls Pok Shen, who he says taught him in a garage for a few years before moving. Nor for Lin Po.
John Williams thus far has NOT shown any photos or scrolls from Pok Shen (or anything else to show the man ever existed for that matter!) which suggest his claims might be legitimate. Where he learned his DR from, I can only guess. Why the rest of the Aikido/Daito-ryu establishment is treating this with kid gloves is anybody's guess.
Williams at one time had a close relationship to Rod Sacharnoski, and I believe was/is also affiliated with George Parulski. BOTH of these men have backgrounds which (according to my searches tus far) lead nowhere.
There has also been some good-humored discussion over William's use of te term "gunshi".
Have a Groovey Day,
All the points seem to be covered, so I'll throw a question out;
Why the **** does the name of a ju jutsu style have the word for "longsword" in it?
Excellent work people. However, this should be in Bullshido General Population, since this becoming more of a fraud exposure than actual historical discussion.
Jeremy M. Talbott
Originally Posted by Phrost
Originally Posted by D.Murray
Originally Posted by hangooknamja88
Bumping this thread for reference.
This aki jujutsu stuf seems kind of weird I wonder if anyone has trained in it? If so could you post your feelings about it, especially if you have trained with the guy who apparently awarded himself his certificates?
Looking closer at the certificate I think you will find it is an affiliations certificate for Prof Rogers and his style.
Originally Posted by Bizzaro Root
I train Zen Ha Kenpo under Prof Rogers. We mainly study classical Jiu-Jutsu but do have seesions specifically covering the aiki side. The style in general includes alot of pressure points which we use to enhnace a technique from the traditional entries seen in Jiu-Jutsu.
Originally Posted by Sideburnt
Prof Rogers is an excellent instructor and certainly the best I have trained with. It is good to be part of a living art that is continuelly developing. He is constantly striving to make techniques more efficient buy his continueing study in Martial Arts modefying techniques where required.
I feel he is a credibal instructor as firstly all his certificates are up and present and certified by the BJJA GB. This is backed up by his experiances as a Para and Spec Op with the British Army where he has brought real world experiance to his art. Also the success of the fighter from his school shows his ability as a coach with the team having great success in both traditional and ground fighting competions in the UK. The MMA team are also looking promising with a few wins under there belt but this is still early days.
Hope this helps. There are plenty of videos and pictures from training on the schools website and youtube if you would like to see more.
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