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  1. Acekicken is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Collar
    I neglected to include the "Master of Defense" in my opening statements. This individual's name is Paul Janulis. As mentioned in a thread devote especially to him, he's another VTG that fancies himself to be some sort of modern martial arts master with connections to the special operations community. Refer to http://www.bullshido.net/forums/show...Master+Defense

    The bravest if internet warriors, he posts in various internet forums as "Tulisan", and like the numerous VTGs he keeps company with, tries to pass himself off as a combatives expert of sorts. He's a nut rider for both Kelly Worden and another self-styled VTG known as Tim Hartman.

    Interesting enough; in nature janulis is a species of sea slug. No doubt that the MoD lives up to his namesake…a bottom feeder.

    Tim Hartman seems to be a very slick individual. After reading numerous threads on Martial Talk (he posts as Datu Puti -- "White Cheiftan") and looking at his web pages, I feel that he and his organization (the World Modern Arnis Alliance) are more than worthy of inclusion as McDojo Bullshit Artists. This also includes much of the staff of Martial Talk. One of his students is the creator and aministrator of that forum, and from what I have seen if you don't agree with Dati Puti, you're flamed until you either don't come back or they suspend/ban you from the forum. Many of the moderators at Martial Talk appear to be Hartman nut riders.

    Interestingly enough, Janulis, Hartman and his followers went after a number of people who were sharing a Martial Talk log-in. They flamed who they believed was responsible, and banned them. A year or so later, Hartman was exposed for having dual accounts (a breech of Martial Talk policy) and the staff at Martial Talk were “unable to verify” if it was indeed Hartman breaking his own rules.

    It is very entertaining to read people taking this group to task in their own forum and see the moderators jump in with the “keep it respectful or else” threats. Phat Phil posts at Martial Talk as well.

    One thing that stands out is Hartman's promotion to 7th degree blackbelt. It appears that he was voted into 7th degree by a board of his own students. Janulis was also part of that. http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/sho...ht=Tim+Hartman
    What's up with that?

    Some other interesting info: http://wmarnis.com/resume.html
    Supposedly he founded a knife fighting system called Mano y Daga, but Mano y Daga is a phase of Pekiti Tirsia training. Once again, somebody “created” something that already existed as part of an established system. At least he doesn’t claim to be an instructor to some super secret spec-ops types, but wait… he’s certified in US and British military combatives. Holy cow!!! Where’s my shovel and hip waders???

    The photo page is interesting too. I think that Hartman should open a Jenny Craig outlet at his school, he’d make a killing. They all appear to eat quite well.
    It Seems to Me That Your Post is made out of Jealousy?
    U Don't Seem to know Much about Horizon Martial Arts
    Members.

    I would Like To Think I have Brought Credit
    To My Instructor Datu Tim Hartman & Horizon Martial Arts
    With Wining The Exteme Fighting Challenge Light Weight Championship

    I am also a 2x Time USJJF National Ju Jitsu Champion
    5x NYJJI Ju Jitsu Champion
    2001 J.G.C. Grappling Champion
    2001 JJIF North American Ju Jitsu Champion

    MY Record in Mixed Martial Arts is 3 - 0
    My Competiton Ju Jits Record is 19 - 4
    My Grappling Record is 6 - 2.

    I would Not Even consider My Self 1 of The Top Students
    Trained By Datu Tim Hartman.

    If Horizon Martial Arts is a MC Dojo Y have I
    Found This Much Success????

    As For My Shape I am alway's Top Condition.


    Primo :smileinbo
    Last edited by Acekicken; 1/11/2005 10:42pm at .
  2. Blue Collar is offline

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    Wow, good for you. Perhaps I stand corrected. Who else do you train with?
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  4. Blue Collar is offline

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    LOL!!!

    Looks like somebody's calling "Primo" out. Maybe I don't stand corrected.

    http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=20432
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Collar
    Wow, good for you. Perhaps I stand corrected. Who else do you train with?
    Excuse My absence Im curenrly train for My Next Defence Of
    MY EFC Belt on Jan. 25 2005 Promo West in Ohio.

    I Train With Jeff Denz(2003 JGC Grappling Champion) Member
    Of Denz Dungeon & Horizon Martial Arts & To many Wrestling Championships
    to count. Bill Begg (2002 USJJF National Ju Jitsu Champ) Horizon Martial Arts
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    Boyd Ritchie Sambo Wrestling Instructor
    at Horizon Martial Arts.

    Primo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Gwinn
    Not a writing coach. . . .

    Do U have something to Say?????/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acekicken
    Do U have something to Say?????/
    He's telling you that your language skills are lacking and perhaps alluding that you either got whacked in the head a lot or that maybe you should have stayed in school.
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    Tim Hartman seems to be a very slick individual. After reading numerous threads on Martial Talk (he posts as Datu Puti -- "White Cheiftan") and looking at his web pages, I feel that he and his organization (the World Modern Arnis Alliance) are more than worthy of inclusion as McDojo Bullshit Artists. This also includes much of the staff of Martial Talk. One of his students is the creator and aministrator of that forum, and from what I have seen if you don't agree with Dati Puti, you're flamed until you either don't come back or they suspend/ban you from the forum. Many of the moderators at Martial Talk appear to be Hartman nut riders.

    I would like to thank Loki for giving me the opportunity to promote both my school and organization. As is often said there is no such thing as bad PR. I welcome anyone from this forum to contact me if you have any question about my credentials. Depending were you live we might be able to meet face to face. I teach anywhere from 25 – 35 seminars a year throughout North America and Europe. If you check the WMAA website at www.wmarnis.com you can see if I’ll be in your area. I leave next Thursday (Jan 27th) for a tour in Sweden and return on February 7th. Feel free to contact me at my school (Horizon Martial Arts) before or after my trip. My school number is 716-675-0899, and before anyone asks, there in NO “Swedish Bikini Team”. I was crushed to find out it was an urban legend!

    Respectfully yours,
    Datu Tim Hartman
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    I saw your pic you look like a douche to me.
    Last edited by Blizerp; 1/19/2005 10:31pm at .
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    This thread has lots of potential. I will be keeping a very close eye on it.
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