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  1. Omar is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omar
    I was just thinking about the 5 fists and gloves.

    The only one that seems like it would be particularly influenced is pi quan since it is prototypically a palmstrike or even sort of a knife edge thing. Pao, Zuan and Beng are typically thrown with closed fists anyways and that just leaves the one I am the foggiest on, heng, which is typically not even used to strike at all. Most people I have heard from seem to like it better for throwing/unbalancing etc and the contact surface being more often the forearms or even elbows. .
    From my own understanding (I'm admittedly fairly new and have zero formal instruction aside from books), it can also be used to strike at soft areas, particularly the armpit. I used it on a friend of mine in some light sparring and he could barely lift his arm for a day or two.

    ...then, since he's 100 lbs heavier than me and plays football, he took me to school like the nancy little girl I am, but that's beside the point.
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    The_Fan, please immediately cease pretending to know anything about xingyi whatsoever. You threw out your shoulder doing a beng quan.

    Find a teacher, any martial art* will do, and pretend to know something about that instead.

    *that doesn't suck
    I would liken it to the boxing or the muay thai of internal kung fu, even though that's like calling apples the oranges of the apple world. --WalkOn
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    How the hell do you throw out your arm doing a beng quan!?
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    The downside of being double-jointed. The ligaments in my shoulder are so loose I've thrown it out reaching for salt before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by liuzg150181
    Some xingyi fighting clips from Taiwan,courtesy from Kyle Chung of Tang Shou Dao school of Chinese Internal MA~~~
    For info,Tang Shou Dao is it is an IMA comprising of xingyi,bagua and taiji,founded by Taiwanese Master Hung Yi Hsiang~~~

    http://www.mymoviestar.com/open_movie.php?file_id=17291
    http://www.mymoviestar.com/open_movie.php?file_id=17292
    http://www.mymoviestar.com/open_movie.php?file_id=17295
    http://www.mymoviestar.com/open_movie.php?file_id=17296

    Good amatuer boxing clips, I presume? Sure has nothing to do with Xing yi. Sorry bout that bub. I played in Taiwan for some years. Contact me if you want the real deal.

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    u have t3h r34L xing yi!?!???!?

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    Baguamonk: I am in austin. I would like to fight you.


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    It was a pretty good clip; I didn't see much in the way of xing yi, but the guy was obviously skilled.

    From my understanding, the 5 Elements are really just 5 ways of manifesting power (jing). Pi Quan doesn't have to be an open hand like the form. It can be any "splitting" or "breaking" movement, usually in a vertical circle, forward from up to down. Just like Zuan Quan is drilling, it doesn't have to be an uppercut. It can be any spiralling forward strike that manifests jing in a pinpoint energy. In fact, according to classical form, a hook punch is considered Zuan, just moving sideways. And Peng Quan can be to the face, stomach, groin, anything. Heng Quan doesn't need to be that specific palm-up-fist punch like Zuan, it can be an open knife hand or a vertical fist. What is important is the crossing power. It's all concepts, not specific techniques. If you really study this theory in depth, you can see that ANY martial technique can be classified into one of the 5 elements, based on the intent and power being applied in the technique. It's really quite fascinating.
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    READ THE DATES PEOPLE.

    Hedgey: Clean bowers up too, while you're at it.
    There's no choice but to confront you, to engage you, to erase you. I've gone to great lengths to expand my threshold of pain. I will use my mistakes against you. There's no other choice.
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