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  1. xodus2 is offline

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    Posted On:
    12/26/2004 6:07am


     Style: BJJ, Kickboxing

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!

    Vochanchyn vs Silva

    Sak has been canned (good thing too for involved) so there will be a replacement fighter.

    the number one contender as replacement is Igor Vochanchyn. This will be too cool if this comes off!

    Igor actually stands a chance against Wanderlei IMO.
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    12/26/2004 6:32am


     Style: Daito Ryu, BJJ noob

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    I realy hope this fight happens! Are they in the same weight class?
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    Posted On:
    12/26/2004 4:00pm

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    Vovchanchin is fat and lazy.

    His small and compact body make his kicks(and especially punches) very dangerous to deal with.

    I think the last time he fought he weighed in around 230lbs, does anyone know? That would be alot heavier than Silva fights at.

    I'd still pick Silva to win fairly easily unless Igor comes in 30lbs heavier than him.
    "All warfare is based on deception." -Sun Tzu, ca. 400BC


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    12/26/2004 4:27pm


     Style: Sandbagged BJJ white belt

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    I guess Silva will just have to juice up some more.
    I pointed at him [the panhandler], bringing my rear hand up in a subtle approximation of the double Wu Sau guard that is the default hand position in Wing Chun Kung Fu.

    "Step away," I hissed.
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    Posted On:
    12/26/2004 4:29pm

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    He definitely juices without doubt, but then again so does every other fighter in Pride including Vovchanchin. If Vovchanchin wasn't taking Winstrol V in his earlier fights then Mark Kerr never jiuced either....
    "All warfare is based on deception." -Sun Tzu, ca. 400BC


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    12/26/2004 4:35pm


     Style: Sandbagged BJJ white belt

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    Even really slim guys like Nog (I don't know jack **** about steroids)?
    I pointed at him [the panhandler], bringing my rear hand up in a subtle approximation of the double Wu Sau guard that is the default hand position in Wing Chun Kung Fu.

    "Step away," I hissed.
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    Posted On:
    12/26/2004 4:38pm

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoleFighter
    Even really slim guys like Nog (I don't know jack **** about steroids)?
    I'm not certain if you know jack **** about steroids or not. You havent made any dumb statements regarding their use and you picked Silva and Nog as users so you cant be clueless.

    If Nog doesn't take light cycles of Winstrol or Sustanon he'd be unique in the sport IMO. Just about everyone else does so to think he didn't would be pretty naive.
    "All warfare is based on deception." -Sun Tzu, ca. 400BC


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    12/26/2004 4:42pm


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    i think its a bitch ass cop out to say that every fighter with a nice build juices. how bout they just work hard at what they do.
    Eduardo "Why'd you stop."

    Me "I was kicked in the head by the guys sparring next to me."

    Eduardo "Ino what happened but i didnt say you could stop."

    Me "Um.. I guess I keep going."

    Eduardo "You dont stop until i say stop, you dont get tired until i say your tired, keep going."


    Originally posted by Ralek
    My cousin gave me some tapes of him doing tkd. I learned from those tapes. When I beat up an Akido instructor, and made him take rest breaks, I used TKD. I learned Bjj from watching ufc and pride and then I copied them and wrestled my cousin for practice. I choked him out and he tapped.
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    12/26/2004 4:45pm


     Style: Sandbagged BJJ white belt

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    All I know about steroids is what they taught us in high school: 'roids increase your musclemass in the short run, but lead to the gradual deterioration of your body over time.

    But really, since controls are lax in japan, it just makes sense to use them in small amounts if you're going to fight there, right? From what I understand, the only real way to tell whether or not someone juices, without performing a medical exam, is to see if they get really big, really quickly.
    Last edited by PoleFighter; 12/26/2004 4:48pm at .
    I pointed at him [the panhandler], bringing my rear hand up in a subtle approximation of the double Wu Sau guard that is the default hand position in Wing Chun Kung Fu.

    "Step away," I hissed.
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    Posted On:
    12/26/2004 4:49pm

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    They do work hard at what they do...they also juice. I dont know what else to tell you. If you want to live in make believe land about this continue to do so, you wont hear any complaints from me.

    They fight at the ABSOLUTE TOP of the pro ladder. Some of them juice like a BASTARD and those guys are easy to spot but most of them just juice with Winstrol for increased cardio and Sustanon for increased recovery from training and faster healing from their injuries.

    Its easy to spot the guys that ABUSE steroids as opposed to the guys who only use them but the signs are there if you know what to look for.

    And why is it a "bitch ass cop out"?

    How is saying someone uses steroids a "cop out"?

    You dont think Nog used juice in his match with Bob Sapp? You're nuts...

    Besides if they told you everyday they took diet pills to increase energy, creatine to promote water retention, weight gainer to help get bigger, protein shakes to help their nutrition, and god knows what other "legal" **** you can stick in your body you wouldn't have a problem with it would you?
    "All warfare is based on deception." -Sun Tzu, ca. 400BC


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