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  1. PeedeeShaolin is offline
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    Theres a major difference between steroid USE and steroid ABUSE.

    Is there anyone here who really thinks you're taking a greater risk by taking steroids than you are when you drive on the freeway at 65mph?
    "All warfare is based on deception." -Sun Tzu, ca. 400BC


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    Captain's Log: Just a little update for all my TRUE and HONEST friends out there:

    1) I am STRAIGHT! I am STRAIGHT! Get it through your thick skulls, numbskulls!

    2) My name is not Ian Brandon Something.

    3) Kacey is coming with me now. I have stolen her from the other Christian Weston Chandler.

    REMINDER: I am still the one and only true creator of sonichu and rosechu electric hedgehog pokemon
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    Uh...yeah...I'd say you are taking a bigger risk using steroids than driving down the highway at 65. Injecting yourself with hormones is asking to have a "crash" at a later date. It's like basically, defering your "accident". It isn't a question of IF you are going to suffer some serious consequences, the real question is WHEN. One of the points in his lecture I agree with is that steroids are a shortcut. If you take the longer road, not only are you going to eliminate a time bomb of body chemistry, you are going to be healthier the whole way along.

    Yeah...there's a difference between Heroin use and Heroin abuse...sigh...
    The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function.
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    "Yeah...there's a difference between Heroin use and Heroin abuse...sigh..."

    Sarcasm?

    All recreational substances have their ruleset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeedeeShaolin
    Theres a major difference between steroid USE and steroid ABUSE.

    Is there anyone here who really thinks you're taking a greater risk by taking steroids than you are when you drive on the freeway at 65mph?
    65?

    For fucks sake... In the UK, the speed limit is 70 and the average driving speed on motorways is 85.

    Germany doesn't have a speed limit on the Autobahns and I believe they are no more dangerous than British roads.
    Maybe Asia or MrMcFu (or even Smeagol) can shed more light on it.

    Risk is what you make it.

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    Edit - I'm drunk. feel free to ignore.
    Last edited by SamHarber; 12/24/2004 7:30pm at . Reason: Drunk
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeedeeShaolin
    Theres a major difference between steroid USE and steroid ABUSE.
    Exactly. That is a major concept in this thread.


    While I would not recommend steroids to anyone, (possible scams, people cutting it wrong, adding whatever)
    it has been used, in a controlled environment to assist those deeply affected by AIDS.
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    There is a major difference between steroids as a medical treatment and steroids as a "how can I totally shortcut my way to a hardbody".
    The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeedeeShaolin
    Theres a major difference between steroid USE and steroid ABUSE.

    Is there anyone here who really thinks you're taking a greater risk by taking steroids than you are when you drive on the freeway at 65mph?
    I need to drive to get to school, work, etc.

    I need to use steroids to....

    Wait, I don't need to use steroids. If I want to, it's an added risk and IMO one that isn't worth it.

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    I've been driving on the freeway for two years now. As of 12/24/04 my balls still work just fine.

    Had I been on steroids for two years I'd more or less look like a Garbage Pail Kid.
    Captain's Log: Just a little update for all my TRUE and HONEST friends out there:

    1) I am STRAIGHT! I am STRAIGHT! Get it through your thick skulls, numbskulls!

    2) My name is not Ian Brandon Something.

    3) Kacey is coming with me now. I have stolen her from the other Christian Weston Chandler.

    REMINDER: I am still the one and only true creator of sonichu and rosechu electric hedgehog pokemon
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    Peedee,
    Right, like a bunch of pseudo-educated bodybuilders using black market steroids have any idea what abuse is. If you are using substances you acquired on the black market that under normal circumstances should only be used under a doctor's direction, you're probably abusing. If you are using dangerous substances for the sole purpose of a rocked out gastrocnemius, you are abusing.


    On relatively poor authority, here was Andreas Munzer's drug regimen:

    Here is what Munzer was taking before he died, minus the EPO;

    10-6 weeks before the competition daily:
    2 injects of testoviron at 250 mg
    1 inject of Parabolan
    30 tablets Halotestin
    30 tablets of metandienon
    20 IU GH
    20 IU insulin

    ( I wonder if they mean mgs instead of tablets?)

    5-3 weeks before comp daily:
    3 injects Masteron
    2 injects Parabolan
    30 tablets Halo
    50 tablets Stromba
    2 injects Stromba
    24 Iu GH
    unknown insulin

    2-1 weeks before comp daily:
    2 uinjects Masteron
    2 injects Stromba
    40 tablets Halo
    80 tablets Stromba
    24 IU GH
    unknown insulin
    unknown IGF

    Also prior to competition:
    Aldactone, Lasix.

    Ingested daily throughout the year:
    Ephedrine, AN-1, Captagon, Aspirin, Valium, Clenbuterol, theyroid hormone.

    His cycles cost him $6900 per month.
    Normally, I'd say I was grappling, but I was taking down and mounting people, and JFS has kindly informed us that takedowns and being mounted are neither grappling nor anti grappling, so I'm not sure what the **** I was doing. Maybe schroedinger's sparring, where it's neither grappling nor anti-grappling until somoene observes it and collapses the waveform, and then I RNC a cat to death.----fatherdog
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