Passing Guard from the Knees vs Standing

**Red Elvis** · Posted On: 1/06/2005 9:06pm

Originally Posted by Aesopian

RedElvis and I are actually on the same page.

Damn you Aesopian! We are saying the same thing. Shite in a tin bucket and call it Buddah! Oh well, I was looking forward to a debate with SOMEBODY that is knowlegdeable. I got a good post idea though... I think I will call it "Good BJJ or Sloppy or How I Learned to Love the Bomb!"

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**Aesopian** · Posted On: 1/14/2005 8:35pm

To further add to the proof that I'm not making this issue up, even Roylers no-gi book makes a distinction between standing passes and passing from the knees, and explains the reasons you would use either one, and how most people prefer one to another.

**Red Elvis** · Posted On: 1/15/2005 5:31pm

Talked to my peeps about this and all prefer to pass on the knees while training no-gi because it's safe and easier. Without a gi there is nothing to grab onto and it makes you vulnerable to sweeps and leg attacks etc. Just thought I'd throw in an update. I don't have anyone to ask who trains in gi's anymore. It’s really preference though with no right or wrong answer.

**Ippatsu182** · Posted On: 1/19/2005 10:43am

I can only pass the guard from the knees right now. Whenever I stand up, I get swept. It must be a combination of bad posture, no experience and total and utter suckage.

**Darkpaladin** · Posted On: 2/14/2006 1:47pm

BJJ, mostly from the knees.

When punches/upkicks can be thrown, probably standing.

**AikidoDeadlines** · Posted On: 2/14/2006 6:17pm

My teacher always says that If you are taller than the guy you are trying to pass, then you don't have to worry about the subs as much and don't have to create as much distance to open him, and so passing from the knees is probably easier. If the guy you are trying to pass is longer than you are, then you need the extra distance to open his guard, and to keep safe from the subs. Basically, if you are trying to pass from the knees, and he is long enough that he can still x-choke you even when you are postured up away form him, it is time to switch to the standing passes.

**Thaiboxerken** · Posted On: 2/14/2006 7:38pm

Damn, maybe I should only do standing passes then. I like to do the cartwheel passes, but only can seem to pull them off on new people.

**Scrapper** · Posted On: 2/14/2006 7:39pm

AJJ

I pass standing usually, because I like having the option of dropping big punches at any moment. It keeps the bottom guy watching my hands and not trying to sub me.

**Roidie McDouchebag** · Posted On: 2/14/2006 7:44pm

I like to stand and either go for a leglock or throw a leg to the side and lunge, or spin past the legs into side mount, or risk getting upkicked and stomp once I have control of a leg.

**Fighting Cephalopod** · Posted On: 2/15/2006 11:19am

In sub grappling, I go back and forth depending on the situation.

In MMA, I almost always pass on my knees, because standing gives them too much opportunity to get up, and 90% of the time in MMA if it's gone to the ground I want it to stay there, especially if I'm on top.