From the knees.
Da Komrads... Again you are MadPelvisOwn3d!
Posted On:1/06/2005 10:06pm
Style: Spetsnaz Shovel-Fu
Originally Posted by Aesopian
RedElvis and I are actually on the same page.
Damn you Aesopian! We are saying the same thing. Shite in a tin bucket and call it Buddah! Oh well, I was looking forward to a debate with SOMEBODY that is knowlegdeable. I got a good post idea though... I think I will call it "Good BJJ or Sloppy or How I Learned to Love the Bomb!"
To fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence;
Supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without spilling your Guinness.
Sun "Fu Man JhooJits" Tzu, the Art of War & Guinness
Posted On:1/14/2005 9:35pm
To further add to the proof that I'm not making this issue up, even Roylers no-gi book makes a distinction between standing passes and passing from the knees, and explains the reasons you would use either one, and how most people prefer one to another.
Posted On:1/15/2005 6:31pm
Talked to my peeps about this and all prefer to pass on the knees while training no-gi because it's safe and easier. Without a gi there is nothing to grab onto and it makes you vulnerable to sweeps and leg attacks etc. Just thought I'd throw in an update. I don't have anyone to ask who trains in gi's anymore. Itís really preference though with no right or wrong answer.
Posted On:1/19/2005 11:43am
Style: Muay Thai
I can only pass the guard from the knees right now. Whenever I stand up, I get swept. It must be a combination of bad posture, no experience and total and utter suckage.
The r34l Drunken Jiu Jitsu
Posted On:2/14/2006 2:47pm
Style: _razilian _iu _itsu
BJJ, mostly from the knees.
When punches/upkicks can be thrown, probably standing.
Number of bottles of beer downed by me and my girlfriend within a half hour while playing the Channel 7 "how many times will they say 'snow' game" during the "Blizzard of '06": 3.5 each.
Posted On:2/14/2006 7:17pm
Style: BJJ blue
My teacher always says that If you are taller than the guy you are trying to pass, then you don't have to worry about the subs as much and don't have to create as much distance to open him, and so passing from the knees is probably easier. If the guy you are trying to pass is longer than you are, then you need the extra distance to open his guard, and to keep safe from the subs. Basically, if you are trying to pass from the knees, and he is long enough that he can still x-choke you even when you are postured up away form him, it is time to switch to the standing passes.
Posted On:2/14/2006 8:38pm
Damn, maybe I should only do standing passes then. I like to do the cartwheel passes, but only can seem to pull them off on new people.
Fear and bullets.
Posted On:2/14/2006 8:39pm
I pass standing usually, because I like having the option of dropping big punches at any moment. It keeps the bottom guy watching my hands and not trying to sub me.
And lo, Kano looked down upon the field and saw the multitudes. Amongst them were the disciples of Uesheba who were greatly vexed at his sayings. And Kano spake: "Do not be concerned with the mote in thy neighbor's eye, when verily thou hast a massive stick in thine ass".
--Scrolls of Bujutsu: Chapter 5 vs 10-14.
Injury Waiting To Happen
Posted On:2/14/2006 8:44pm
Style: Snatch Wrestling
I like to stand and either go for a leglock or throw a leg to the side and lunge, or spin past the legs into side mount, or risk getting upkicked and stomp once I have control of a leg.
Submitting 1d6 Investigators per round
Posted On:2/15/2006 12:19pm
Style: ZHOO ZHITSU
In sub grappling, I go back and forth depending on the situation.
In MMA, I almost always pass on my knees, because standing gives them too much opportunity to get up, and 90% of the time in MMA if it's gone to the ground I want it to stay there, especially if I'm on top.
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