Gunter Bauer.

**tvebak** · Posted On: 12/19/2004 4:11pm

Hi Guys.
I have recieved an invitation to a seminar with Prof. Gunter Bauer.
Unfortunatly i know next to nothing about the man exept that he is 8th dan in Hapkido and has founded his own Close Quarter Combat system (www.Closequartercombatsystem.vze.com).
I would very much like to hear from people with some experience in his style and with his teaching.
Thanks in advance.

**Colin** · Posted On: 12/19/2004 4:16pm

Hmm.. the guy does Ki healing (reiki). Alarm bells are ringing. Maybe I'm being a cynic - but that's just me.

**poidog** · Posted On: 12/20/2004 8:12am

tvebak, listen to KFC. Cynicism is VERY helpful in sniffing out bullshido. His bio page alone screams bullshido. For me, the ultimate factor would be cost of seminar. If it was even moderately priced, I'd say pass. But if it's free, well then, by all means go.

**Zeddy** · Posted On: 12/20/2004 8:30am

Originally Posted by KungFuColin

Hmm.. the guy does Ki healing (reiki). Alarm bells are ringing. Maybe I'm being a cynic - but that's just me.

Yeh, I once forked out $35 for a seminar. Around 15 minutes was spent making "ommmmmmm" noises.

And I disliked the bit abot rolling up chi balls like fairy floss and putting it on people's injuries.

Reiki-jutsu anyone?

**Myst** · Posted On: 12/20/2004 10:22am

Originally Posted by Zeddy

Yeh, I once forked out $35 for a seminar. Around 15 minutes was spent making "ommmmmmm" noises.

And I disliked the bit abot rolling up chi balls like fairy floss and putting it on people's injuries.

Reiki-jutsu anyone?

Just like most things in life, there are things that are real and practical, and then the bullshido version. It annoys me how so many MA sites and instructors seem to tack on reiki healing and teaching to their styles, in order to become "more spiritual," I guess. I have a specific gripe with this: I've been practicing reiki for the last two years, and have found it somewhat effective for healing. However, I don't charge money for it or teach it. In addition, I don't think it can be used to shoot chi bullets, make me a ninja, etc.

I've also never heard of the noises being associated with it, sounds a lot more like a form of meditation than reiki.

**tvebak** · Posted On: 12/20/2004 3:56pm

Thanks for your insigts, i still like to give people the benefit of the doubt, especially since i have been invited by som of my very good friends.
So maybe i will go check it out, you never know with impressions, sometimes they are all wrong.

**poidog** · Posted On: 12/20/2004 3:57pm

Good luck with it. Keep us posted as to the results.

**Zeddy** · Posted On: 12/21/2004 8:28am

Originally Posted by Myst

I've also never heard of the noises being associated with it, sounds a lot more like a form of meditation than reiki.

He was doing it from a karate zenkutsu dachi, so I was somewhat cynical about it.

**BP-1** · Posted On: 5/11/2012 11:51am

Hi Tvebak

I have trained with Gunter and I've also studied various styles of martial arts over the past 30 years and won many titles my instructor was Joe Tierney (who you or others may never of heard of but he's another UK master) - I can only say don't listen to the cynic's - Gunter is as well equiped with his knowledge as he is with delivering techniques some say he's a master of destruction but he's also a very nice person who practices reiki and likes to share his knowledge - you don't have to look tough to be effectively tough as I'm sure you already know ! I hope this helps