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  1. Deadpan Scientist is offline

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    I think it's fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by infidel
    I know this has been discussed here before, but i was wondering if anybody signed up for his "mailing list," if there has been any change of opinion, and what the general opinion is of his marketing and his training theories (not the sucess of his team).
    I believe he is intelligent in the way he markets himself. As far as his training theories go, can you really examine them without examining the success of his competition team? I'd argue that his training theories are a large part of why they are so successful. I also believe that while the blueprint newsletter isn't earthshattering in any of the ideas it presents, they help nonetheless. I'll take whatever tips the guy freely offers to help me stop being such a damn *****.
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    You are incorrect drummerboy. Lloyd knew nothing of Judo when he started BJJ. He came to Judo after BJJ by way of Rhadi Ferguson 2004 Olympian.
  4. Dochter is offline

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    Ronin, Are you sure? I can't find it in the correct email folder but I was pretty sure that in the emails associated with the grapplin blueprint's newsletter Irvin discussed coming in to BJJ with a judo blackbelt.
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    I'm pretty sure...
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    And Lloyd was a very succesfull competitor. I got his newsletter, used it and it made me better. I think Anthony also said the same thing.
    Has anyone done what he said and had it not work?
    And that's when I figured out that tears couldn't make somebody who was dead alive again. There's another thing to learn about tears, they can't make somebody who doesn't love you any more love you again. It's the same with prayers. I wonder how much of their lives people waste crying and praying to God. If you ask me, the devil makes more sense than God does. I can at least see why people would want him around. It's good to have somebody to blame for the bad stuff they do. Maybe God's there because people get scared of all the bad stuff they do. They figure that God and the Devil are always playing this game of tug-of-war game with them. And they never know which side they're gonna wind up on. I guess that tug-of-war idea explains how sometimes, even when people try to do something good, it still turns out bad.
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    I've gotten it for a while, but can't say I've used it. I was curious about Rhadi's DVD too.
    Regardless, that doesn't change the fact that kickboxing is commonly known as fighting while grappling simply isn't. - Osiris
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoninPimp
    You are incorrect drummerboy. Lloyd knew nothing of Judo when he started BJJ. He came to Judo after BJJ by way of Rhadi Ferguson 2004 Olympian.
    Hmm...my feeling was that he came to BJJ as a judo shodan. I may have misread something.

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  9. Ignorant is offline

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    Posted On:
    12/13/2004 4:52pm


     Style: BJJ, MMA

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    I used to train out of Mario Yamasaki's school near Loyds, some of the people from Yamasaki felt that Loyd was willing to give more personal attention to their training where as Marios classes were far too large to do such a thing. I have heard nothing but good things about Loyds school, i am friends with Nakapan, Todd Margolis, and Mike Moses all who train with Loyd.

    This is in no way a reflection of the quality of training mario offers, it simply had to do with the fact that his classes were too large for personal attention from serious students, and as i recal personal lessons were quite expensive.
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    12/13/2004 6:50pm


     Style: Total Martial Training

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    lloyd did wrestling then went into BJJ then into judo/sambo if i remember correctly. If you want an excellent example of the grappling blueprint at work type in the name Mike Fowler and read about him.
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