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  1. infidel is offline

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    lloyd Irvin

    I know this has been discussed here before, but i was wondering if anybody signed up for his "mailing list," if there has been any change of opinion, and what the general opinion is of his marketing and his training theories (not the sucess of his team).
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    I signed up for the Grappling Blueprint mailing list and got the first couple mailings. They are OK, just basic sports psychology. It never attempted to make me pay for or buy anything, so it's fine in that regard. I just got tired of receiving it and cancelled my subscription because it wasn't that interesting or helpful.

    His "BECOME A BJJ BLACK BELT IN 3 YEARS" bit is dumb though.
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    Once again he is not saying you will become a bb in three years he is saying he'll teach the steps he took to get his in three years. I see his theories of training to be what people think of Matt Thorton's theories. Everyone says it's bullshit except the one's who are winning and advancing and of course they are the ones following the "bullshit"
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    well, apparantly he got his in 3 1/2 years.... but that is ridiculously uncommon, and it sort of bothers me that he advertises like he can make anybody get it that fast.
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    In my admitedly biased opinion (I've been a student of Lloyd's since 1997), his material is top notch. He is definately selling a product, but he also knows how to get results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brad Souders
    Once again he is not saying you will become a bb in three years he is saying he'll teach the steps he took to get his in three years. I see his theories of training to be what people think of Matt Thorton's theories. Everyone says it's bullshit except the one's who are winning and advancing and of course they are the ones following the "bullshit"
    Who did he get his from?
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    I wonder if this topic has ever been discussed before.


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    Lloyd received his blackbelt in 2000 from Leonardo Dalla while training in Brazil. Just before the Mundials that year.
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    Anyone can produce a black belt in 3 years- the question is whether or not that person will be a GOOD or remotely competitive black belt in 3 years. Im not doubting his techniques or saying hes not good, but I do not believe in that whole program. If it REALLY is possible, then thats absolutely great, but I dont like to fool myself into believing something simply because I want it to be true so much.
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    Keep in mind that Lloyd was a competitive nidan(?) judoplayer and several times Maryland state judo champion before he started BJJ. In his case it is more like a transition from judo to BJJ, rather than learning BJJ from scratch. That's why he could do it in 3.5 years.

    Having said that, people whos opinion I value say that his program is good and his gyms are top notch.

    The marketing is I should say...ehm.."intensive"...but that does not always devaluate the product...

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