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    What about this choke?



    This choke is new to me. It looks good but has anyone used it before?


    From this site http://www.catchwrestle.com/index.htm

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    Looks like something you can just back-roll out of, but there's only one way to find out.
    You say what about my rice?

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    I've used it. It's works okay in no-gi, but it's not really a high-percentage move against good guys.

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    To escape the guy needs to turn in towards you and put you back in guard, or keep spinning his legs and follow you. It's a hard choke to get on a slippery mat.

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    looks like a paper cutter (wind choke) without the gi, never tried it no-gi
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    Quote Originally Posted by HAPKO3
    Looks like something you can just back-roll out of, but there's only one way to find out.
    I think you'd leave your head behind and get cranked back into position if you tried. Shrimpings gotta be the way to go.

    Does anyone know what that hand grip is about? I cant imagen the thumb being placed in between the fingers by accident but then again it seems relitively pointless to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stickx
    It must suck for legit practitioners of tai chi like Cullion to see their art get all watered down into exercise for seniors.
    Those who esteme qi have no strength. ~ Exposition of Insights into the Thirteen Postures Attrib: Wu Yuxiang founder of Wu style tai chi.

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    The hand grip is a method that Gene LeBell uses. I use it myself because I find it allows my hands to get into that position, but the thumb between the fingers makes it a more solid and dependable grip.

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    You can see this and some other grips briefly explained in the Look Inside the Book feature for one of his books on Amazon:

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0967...51#reader-page

    Just flip through the pages of goofy stuff first.

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    Cheers, so would you recomend his books?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stickx
    It must suck for legit practitioners of tai chi like Cullion to see their art get all watered down into exercise for seniors.
    Those who esteme qi have no strength. ~ Exposition of Insights into the Thirteen Postures Attrib: Wu Yuxiang founder of Wu style tai chi.

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    Stephan Kesting of GrappleArts.com recommends it:

    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...021177-5000851

    And I've never seen him give anything but good advice. I can say it wouldn't be the first thing on his list that I'd buy.

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