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  1. Matt W. is offline
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    The Phil Thread to End All Phil Threads (Verify this claim about Gracies?)

    [Staff Note: Please keep future Phil Elmore - related posts confined to this thread. It's not that we mind you bashing the guy (he deserves it), but let's keep things tidy around here.]


    Anthony, Did I ever mention I was a Certified S/D Instructor of Gracie J.J.
    Not as much anymore,because I have stated I will NEVER do a Project for a 3rd party company (except Palidan) again. I used to get bombarded with free ****. From tape sets to books, training gear and some nice warm up gear.
    Anyway I get this box that I opened that contained a 4 tape set of the Gracie, that looks like Curly from the Three Stooges and a couple of others with mean glares. Well I think I watched part of the first tape.
    Doesnt matter though. The super skills they must have figured out I would learn was good enough to include in the package 3 certificates. One gives me the right to say I am "certified" in Gracie S/D the others are memberships and other crap. They are in a drawer or garbage dump somewhere and have been for a long time.
    They were already signed and ready for framing....Amazing that people do that. I later saw an ad for the same tapes and certificates for like 499.00 Saw it again later for 399.00 sans the "Certifications" I guess they caught heat for that one.
    So if you ever want to learn S/D the Gracie way real cheap.....Remember I am officially Certified. I watched 10 minutes of a tape.
    I think that is the worst abuse of Certification selling in my opinion I have ever seen.
    Any Others?
    Peace, Dan -Officially Certified in the Gracie method of S/D by Carlson Gracie himself....
    Anyone verify or disprove this type of thing happneing with the Gracies? Someone posting on pax wanna ask for verification?
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    This doesn't have to be a "phil thread", I just wanted to state that's where I got it from for those who have been participating over there. But I really am interested in if the Gracies engaged in this bullshido practice or if this guy is being his usual full of it self.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrimbo Slice
    NO MORE PHIL THREADS.
    It's not about Phil, it's about Dan Webre. And since when does Bullshido not have a place a Bullshido? It's not like re-posts of the same things, it's different stuff every time.

    Plus a falsified Gracie cert. goes to the heart of what I think this forum is supported to be about. Webre and t3h d34dly crowd dis of BJJ when they want to look hard and then glom on when it suits them. What is more uncut Bullshido than that?
    I dork harder than any of you can imagine.

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    He's full of **** as usual. Unless he could produce a digi pic of said certification.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoninPimp
    He's full of **** as usual. Unless he could produce a digi pic of said certification.
    Yeah, good point. Maybe I need to lighten up. Nitrous for lunch, maybe.
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    Anyone know how to contact Carlson Gracie? Be interesting what he'd have to say if this was brought to his attention.
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    Ask anthony, he knows everything about the gracies.
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    Post this persons full name, and I'll email Rorion.
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    Dan Webre. Of TSR Direct's "Dan Webre's Filthy Jailhouse Tactics" fame. He's made this claim on multiple websites, most recently paxbaculum.com.
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    Also, tell Rorian... I LOVE HIM!
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