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  1. Agent White is offline

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    Posted On:
    2/06/2003 6:33am


     

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    In a newbie (yay, clap clap) and I see some people blue in the face from defending their TMA style. I've trained in both pure striking and pure grappling for years.

    Let me tell you something.

    I don't care how many boards you can punch through. I can punch through a lot too.

    I don't care how hard you can kick. I can kick real hard too.

    You may as well be calling your opponent names if you are off balance. Save your energy. Your earth shattering strikes will be useless once you're out of your stance and off your center.

    Lie on the ground, see how many boards you can punch through.

    Get on your stomach, see how powerful your kicks are.

    Hell, stand on one foot and try punching stuff. Any stuff.


    If I charge in to take you down, you've got one very minute and very small chance of knocking me out (and you will indeed have to knock me out) in order to stop me. All I have to do is run at you, head down, face covered. You, on the other hand have to have perfect timing, positioning, and power. And you only get one shot.

    Once you are off your balance, on the ground, on your knees, it won't matter how hard you can kick or punch the bag. You need your legs, your hips and your balance for that kind of power. You won't have it.

    That's.... when you're fxcked.

    In a one on one fight, you are always one single-leg, double leg, o-goshi, leg sweep, hip toss, or hard shove away from getting into a ground fight.

    Ever see guys in tournaments demonstrate power techniques while curled up in a ball on the ground? Guess why.

    This is just honesty. I am not an advocate of any "best" martial art, I think that's like saying what's the best color or best music. However, you have to realize that someone with more grappling knowledge than you is at a serious, phsyical, real world advantage. And when you see them coming at you, head down, arm outstretched, heading for your waist, that's...


    When you're fxcked.
  2. SLJ is offline

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    Posted On:
    2/06/2003 6:46am

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I agree, but we've had this arguement on this board over and over and over.

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    YOU HAVE BETRAYED ME, IN THE WORST POSSIBLE MANNER!!" - KiWarrior

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    Posted On:
    2/06/2003 7:33am


     

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    yes we did. where's jamoke when you need him ?

    "said and done"
  4. Gezere is offline
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    Posted On:
    2/06/2003 8:01am

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    This reminds me of a broken record playing.

    >And when you see them coming at you, head down, arm outstretched, heading for your waist, that's...


    When you're fxcked.

    RIIIGHT I would LOVE for another IDIOT to try this with me. So I can KNOCK HIM THE **** OUT TOO!!!


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  5. Mercurius is offline
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    Posted On:
    2/06/2003 8:32am

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    God damn, it's not like strikers have their feet nailed to the floor or some ****.

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    if you got what it takes
    'Cause I'm Kurtis Blow
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    that these are the breaks!
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  6. SamHarber is offline

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    Posted On:
    2/06/2003 8:47am

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Whoa.... back up there... Are you implying my sensei SHOULDN'T be using a nailgun to improve my posture?
    Taking responsibility for my actions since 1989
  7. Gezere is offline
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    Posted On:
    2/06/2003 8:50am

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    Kind of funny don't you think, Merc.

    Everytime we get into stuff like this is alway something simple that is overlooked.

    Instead of the ART vs ART or STRIKER vs GRAPPLER it would be much more intresting and enlighting discussing EXPERIENCE and Training.

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    "I love you Asia" - I Give BJJs Posted - December 25 2002 : 10:40:09
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    RIP SOLDIER

    Didn't anyone ever tell him a fat man could never be a ninja
    -Gene, GODHAND

    You can't practice Judo just to win a Judo Match! You practice so that no matter what happens, you can win using Judo!
    The key to fighting two men at once is to be much tougher than both of them.
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  8. SLJ is offline

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    Posted On:
    2/06/2003 8:55am

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    >This reminds me of a broken record


    I can't for the life of me see why :)

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    The story of a woman on the morning of a war,
    Remind me if you will exactly what we're fighting for.
    "You realise the transformations give a man enough strength to destroy a truck with his bare hands!?
    YOU HAVE BETRAYED ME, IN THE WORST POSSIBLE MANNER!!" - KiWarrior

    "Sport ? That kind of thing's not my bag baby!" - Sammy Franco

    "This system was developed with the help of notible BJJ fighter Ribbon Muchado." - "Sifu" Anthony Iglesias
  9. Gezere is offline
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    Posted On:
    2/06/2003 9:03am

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    SLJ,

    Broken records tend to skipp and play over and over again. Left unchecked they drive pple insane and they go out an put up message boards on the internet!

    Oh wait you was fxcking with me weren't you!?!?!

    That it I breaking out the nailgun!!! You and me gonna fight!!! You make sure to charge in head down and arms out, ok.

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    Xiao Ao Jiang Hu Zhi Dong Fang Bu Bai (Laughing Proud Warrior Invinsible Asia) Emporer of Baji!!! THE FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE AGAINST THE UNITED AUSSIE FRONT!!


    "I love you Asia" - I Give BJJs Posted - December 25 2002 : 10:40:09
    ______
    Xiao Ao Jiang Hu Zhi Dong Fang Bu Bai (Laughing Proud Warrior Invincible Asia) Dark Emperor of Baji!!!

    RIP SOLDIER

    Didn't anyone ever tell him a fat man could never be a ninja
    -Gene, GODHAND

    You can't practice Judo just to win a Judo Match! You practice so that no matter what happens, you can win using Judo!
    The key to fighting two men at once is to be much tougher than both of them.
    -Daniel Tosh
  10. Carbon is offline

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    Posted On:
    2/06/2003 10:23am


     Style: Brazilian Jiu Jitsu

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    Asia you act like your the ultimate fighter or something.

    When someone is determined enough to take you down, its going to happen.
    I'll make one when I can find one I like.
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